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Two local restaurants announced their permanent closures this weekend. One is a location of a chain that has been there since 2012. The other is an independent place that has been in business for 33 years. We weren't regulars at either though we've been to the independent place numerous times and to the other a couple of times. The chain one is at one of the local malls (one of the malls that has actually been thriving for years prior to COVID).
I really wonder what the restaurant scene is going to look like when this is all over.Steve
* Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
* There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
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Originally posted by disneysteve View PostTwo local restaurants announced their permanent closures this weekend. One is a location of a chain that has been there since 2012. The other is an independent place that has been in business for 33 years. We weren't regulars at either though we've been to the independent place numerous times and to the other a couple of times. The chain one is at one of the local malls (one of the malls that has actually been thriving for years prior to COVID).
I really wonder what the restaurant scene is going to look like when this is all over.
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~bs, do your 2000 employees have jobs that puts them in sustained, close contact with one or more people per day, or close contact with many people per day?"There is some ontological doubt as to whether it may even be possible in principle to nail down these things in the universe we're given to study." --text msg from my kid
"It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." --Frederick Douglass
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Originally posted by Joan.of.the.Arch View Post~bs, do your 2000 employees have jobs that puts them in sustained, close contact with one or more people per day, or close contact with many people per day?
A lot of it is common sense measures as recommended by the CDC. Mandatory mask wearing for customers and our employees. We WILL call the police and have you escorted off private property if you refuse to wear one, 6' distancing or greater, if possible, cleaning and sanitizing frequently, mandatory daily temperature checks, mandatory quarantine after returning from travel, mandatory quarantine and/or testing if in contact with a covid positive individual, mandatory shutdown and deep cleaning if an employee tests positive, etc. Because contact tracing and the government in my state is an utter failure (we have 15 for a 1.4million population), we do our own type of contact tracing, informing anyone we know that possibly was in contact with the positive case employee.
These things are common sense and do help prevent spread of the virus.
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Originally posted by disneysteve View PostI really wonder what the restaurant scene is going to look like when this is all over.History will judge the complicit.
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Originally posted by ua_guy View Post
I'm thinking there will be great opportunity to start new restaurants. Used restaurant equipment and spaces for lease should be available for dirt-cheap prices. I think a lot of the public is still staying away from restaurants, or, if they go, there's still a worrisome atmosphere--it's just not the same. I think demand will be huge once the virus is under control. But, you're right...I think a lot of the smaller establishments lose their shorts in the meantime.
Restaurants are open here for outdoor dining. We have been out a few times, but it's still been too hot most of the time. I'm hoping the weather starts getting a little more moderate so that eating out is more tolerable. Especially at lunch time, it's been impossible and not a whole lot better at dinner unless you go fairly late. We've mainly been sticking to takeout.Steve
* Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
* There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
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This isn't necessarily related, but James Altcucher has a sobering take on the long term economic impact of the Covid crisis on Metro New York City.
Here are the first few paragraphs of the piece:
I love NYC. When I first moved to NYC it was a dream come true. Every corner was like a theater production happening right in front of me. So much personality, so many stories.
Every subculture I loved was in NYC. I could play chess all day and night. I could go to comedy clubs. I could start any type of business. I could meet people. I had family, friends, opportunities. No matter what happened to me, NYC was a net I could fall back on and bounce back up.
Now it’s completely dead. “But NYC always always bounces back.” No. Not this time. “But NYC is the center of the financial universe. Opportunities will flourish here again.” Not this time.
“NYC has experienced worse.” No, it hasn’t.
A Facebook group [Into The Unknown] formed a few weeks ago that was for people who were planning a move and wanted others to talk to and ask advice from. Within two or three days it had about 10,000 members.
Every day I see more and more posts: “I’ve been in NYC forever but I guess this time I have to say goodbye.” I’ve been screenshotting them for my scrapbook.
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202.468.6043
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Originally posted by james.hendrickson View PostThis isn't necessarily related, but James Altcucher has a sobering take on the long term economic impact of the Covid crisis on Metro New York City.
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Governor Andrew Cuomo last week on the news was begging NYC residents to come back and Cuomo offered to treat them to dinner. On a personal note I would leave Los Angeles in a heat beat if I could. I would move to Texas or Florida. Los Angeles is following the likes of Chicago, Seattle, NYC, and Portland.
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Originally posted by kork13 View PostI think early on in this crisis, we had some discussion here about the likelihood of it driving a dispersal away from densely populated major urban areas, as well as the likelihood of increased teleworking allowing people to maintain their same jobs while living in a lower-density area. And NYC (and this article) is a perfect example of that. It's readily apparent that heavily populated areas were/are hit the hardest by COVID, while small towns (like where I'm currently living), its impacts are surprisingly minor. It's not hard to foresee a flight from major metro areas becoming a trend, even moreso as the pandemic continues month after month.
I'm sure some people will leave but I don't see the appeal of NYC going away for most. If you are a city person, you're a city person. Nothing changes that.
Of course, I also know plenty of folks who are definitely not city people. One friend we grew up with was born and raised in Philadelphia but as soon as she finished college, she moved to a small town in Delaware and has been there ever since and couldn't be happier. She likes the slower pace and laid back lifestyle and garden and space for the dog to run around. You couldn't pay her enough to get her to move back to the city even though that's where she spent the first 21 years of her life.Steve
* Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
* There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
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Originally posted by kork13 View PostI think early on in this crisis, we had some discussion here about the likelihood of it driving a dispersal away from densely populated major urban areas, as well as the likelihood of increased teleworking allowing people to maintain their same jobs while living in a lower-density area. And NYC (and this article) is a perfect example of that. It's readily apparent that heavily populated areas were/are hit the hardest by COVID, while small towns (like where I'm currently living), its impacts are surprisingly minor. It's not hard to foresee a flight from major metro areas becoming a trend, even moreso as the pandemic continues month after month.
Steve is right about city people - there are people who prefer it and will never give it up and all the great things that go with it. But there is a contingent of people who are making a leap.History will judge the complicit.
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Originally posted by ua_guy View Post
I'm trying to buy and sell right now, mostly sell. Our realtor says yes, absolutely, there are a lot of people in the market who are a) getting out of the city - I am near Minneapolis, and the "riots" spooked a lot of the city people who live close-in. b) A lot of people want more square footage, larger yards, etc, to survive the upcoming year, working from home and having to homeschool, so they are reaching farther into the suburbs where that's possible. I spent almost a month in Eastern WA / Cascades recently, a small town which is too far to be a suburb of Seattle, but is a popular recreation/vacation home community. The area is seeing explosive growth as many people are now free to not commute, yet, they still want to have a handle on the Seattle area, about 90 miles away. The market is moving at warp speed, 30 day inventory, house goes up, it's got multiple offers within 3 days.
Steve is right about city people - there are people who prefer it and will never give it up and all the great things that go with it. But there is a contingent of people who are making a leap.
They are picking up and moving the heck out of there.
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Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
I'm sure some people will leave but I don't see the appeal of NYC going away for most. If you are a city person, you're a city person. Nothing changes that.
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202.468.6043
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