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  • mumof2
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    The big problem is this has largely become a political issue rather than a scientific/medical/public health issue. Decisions are being made based on what politicians perceive will benefit their campaigns the most, not what fits the best available medical data.
    Here some of the politicians are trying the same thing as they have big tourist spots in their states who want to reopen..they are trying to take it to federal court but it really is a state matter and most states are like no your states are still having cases and we aren't so why would we want you in our state....obviously what they are doing isn't working...and what we are doing is working..glad our politicians are sticking to their guns and saying no
    Last edited by disneysteve; 06-14-2020, 06:30 PM. Reason: Fixed quoting

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    https://ktla.com/news/local-news/com...palmdale-park/

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    A young black man was found hanging from a tree in a park in Palmdale, CA. Sheriffs & coroner said he died by suicide. Family & community in Palmdale said not suicide. I have no idea. In this crazy times anything is possible.

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
    The other important number is hospitalizations. A number of states are seeing that number rise (Texas, North Carolina, etc.). You can chalk up some increased cases to more testing but that doesn't explain more hospitalizations.
    Los Angeles may run out of ICU beds in 2 to 4 weeks according to our public health director.
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...215713539.html

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by QuarterMillionMan View Post
    My local news in Los Angeles said today they recorded the highest rate of new cases at 1875 today, and 47 new deaths today.
    The other important number is hospitalizations. A number of states are seeing that number rise (Texas, North Carolina, etc.). You can chalk up some increased cases to more testing but that doesn't explain more hospitalizations.

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    My local news in Los Angeles said today they recorded the highest rate of new cases at 1875 today, and 47 new deaths today. 1875.png

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by mumof2 View Post
    They are wanting t open up all our borders in Australia but most don't want it, there are a couple of states that are still having daily cases where some of our states don't have any and haven't for a few weeks now and we don't want it spreading..obviously those states aren't doing the right thing like the other states..so we say keep them closed till they are...yes we ony have 9 new cases overnight in the whole country but 98 of them are in 1 state...we havent had any new cases for 15 days...was 21 before they let someone from another state in on compassionate grounds who then tested positive...otherwise we would have had no new cases for almost 6 weeks
    No different here. Florida is trying to enforce a 14-day quarantine for visitors from NY, NJ, and CT. However, cases in those states are down dramatically while they're rising rapidly in Florida, Texas, Arkansas, and elsewhere, so that ban makes no sense. If anything, NY should be quarantining visitors from FL, not the other way around.

    The big problem is this has largely become a political issue rather than a scientific/medical/public health issue. Decisions are being made based on what politicians perceive will benefit their campaigns the most, not what fits the best available medical data.

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  • mumof2
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    They are wanting t open up all our borders in Australia but most don't want it, there are a couple of states that are still having daily cases where some of our states don't have any and haven't for a few weeks now and we don't want it spreading..obviously those states aren't doing the right thing like the other states..so we say keep them closed till they are...yes we ony have 9 new cases overnight in the whole country but 98 of them are in 1 state...we havent had any new cases for 15 days...was 21 before they let someone from another state in on compassionate grounds who then tested positive...otherwise we would have had no new cases for almost 6 weeks

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by QuarterMillionMan View Post
    Los Angeles today had 56 new deaths and 1225 new cases. CNBC said Texas is spiking in terms of hospital beds being used. 56.png
    A number of states are seeing their highest numbers yet: Texas, North Carolina, Arkansas, and more. I believe it was AK that said their hospitals were at max capacity.

    The pandemic is far from over. Just because things are starting to reopen doesn’t mean everything is okay.

    ETA: 19 states still have a rising number of cases and 7 more are holding steady. And it may have been AZ, not AK that I saw was getting maxed out.
    Last edited by disneysteve; 06-10-2020, 04:46 AM.

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  • QuarterMillionMan
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    Los Angeles today had 56 new deaths and 1225 new cases. CNBC said Texas is spiking in terms of hospital beds being used. 56.png

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  • mumof2
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    things here are somewhat getting back to normal with more places opening up, you can now eat inside and outside a venue but still only certain number of people can be in the venue...more stores are starting to open....in our state we haven't had any in a week, the last one we had was someone they had in quarantine in another state and they let her in on compassionate grounds..was so annoyed...we didn't have any cases in 19 days before she got here and so far only she had it...so they were discussing whether or not to do it again...I'm not sure they will otherwise we would have had no cases in a month but now its just a week...but we are doing great

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  • disneysteve
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    New Jersey announced today that outdoor dining can start June 15 as can in-person non-essential retail. Salons and barbers can open June 22.

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  • mumof2
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    Originally posted by disneysteve View Post

    We also don't track people. They don't have to report to anybody when they feel better, or if they don't. Unless they need written clearance to return to work, there's no process in place to record and report someone as recovered. Cases are reported. Deaths are reported. Recoveries are not.
    When ours are diagnosed they are put on a registry and the police actually go to their houses several times a day at different times to make sure they are staying home if not they are fined big time and charged...our govt also has an app that shows that someone in your vacinity has had the virus

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  • james.hendrickson
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    Originally posted by kork13 View Post



    Believe me, the military is tracking all of this obsessively -- in leadership circles, COVID is basically being treated no differently than an invading foreign power. Cases are relatively few, but those units with active cases are monitored extremely closely. Daily (or more) monitoring/check-ins with infected folks (equating to mandatory, on-base quarantine). They're focusing tests on high potential/symptomatic cases & often also testing after 100% resolution of symptoms to verify recovery. While individual units/bases are not reporting detailed numbers, the cumulative numbers are almost assuredly quite accurate.
    Yeah, the DoD is an impressive organization. There are almost a million people under arms, they all mostly do what they are supposed to, everyone gets their orders and everyone more or less gets paid on time.

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  • disneysteve
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    Originally posted by kork13 View Post

    Believe me, the military is tracking all of this obsessively -- in leadership circles, COVID is basically being treated no differently than an invading foreign power. Cases are relatively few, but those units with active cases are monitored extremely closely. Daily (or more) monitoring/check-ins with infected folks (equating to mandatory, on-base quarantine). They're focusing tests on high potential/symptomatic cases & often also testing after 100% resolution of symptoms to verify recovery. While individual units/bases are not reporting detailed numbers, the cumulative numbers are almost assuredly quite accurate.
    Good for them. They're doing exactly what should have been done nationwide. Had there been a national response equivalent to what the military has done, we wouldn't have lost 100,000 lives.

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