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  • Originally posted by QuarterMillionMan View Post
    I agree with Texas that fully vaccinated people should not have to wear masks.
    Ohhh, but there's still that slim chance you could get COVID...and if you did, you might just die from it, or worse yet, give it someone else that's also vaccinated and yet they still somehow caught it, and then somehow died...so no, you have to still wear your mask. We'll be sure and tell you when you don't have to wear it anymore.

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    • Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
      Friend of mine owns a liquor store in Oregon. Most of his workers (younger) don't want to get a vaccine. Reason? "We are going to have to wear a mask anyway, what's the difference?"

      Seems like if the gubmit wanted to get everyone vaccinated as quickly as possible, they might tell folks "your life will return to normal 30 days after you do so."

      Of course, that's not going to happen. I told my wife a year ago when Big Brother reached in...this is all going to be "done" very quickly, but getting it "undone" is going to be a fight, every step of the way. That has turned out to be the case.

      Wresting back our normal way of life is proving to be a tussle. Locally, statewide, and nationally. I'm just glad I live in rural Texas right now.
      I'm not sure what "big brother" has to do with any of this.

      Being vaccinated does not mean you are 100% safe from covid. The efficacy rates are high, but there is still a chance that a vaccinated person can get, and spread covid even if symptoms are mild. Only about half of adult americans have received their first dose so it makes common sense that people should continue to be cautious. You may not like the truth, but that's what it is.

      History will judge the complicit.

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      • Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

        I'm not sure what "big brother" has to do with any of this.

        Being vaccinated does not mean you are 100% safe from covid. The efficacy rates are high, but there is still a chance that a vaccinated person can get, and spread covid even if symptoms are mild. Only about half of adult americans have received their first dose so it makes common sense that people should continue to be cautious. You may not like the truth, but that's what it is.
        You are just repeating what I said...you have to be cautious because you aren't quite safe...

        Big Brother is your hypocrite COVID nazis leading your country and your states. Who tell you to do something and then they do something else. Who have changed their story, and the goalposts, dozens of times in the last year and continue to do so.

        Let's agree to disagree. Keep your mask on. Fauci will tell you when you can take it off.

        But I think we can agree on this: Many folks are not going to get vaccinated if nothing is going to change, anyway.

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        • To me mask were a good tool pre-vaccine. Now post-vaccine masks are irrelevant unless one chooses to keep wearing masks then by all means do so. We no longer need the government or Dr. Fauci telling us to keep wearing a mask post-vaccine but like Texas said they like the power so I doubt they will drop the mask mandate any time soon.

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          • Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post

            Keep your mask on. Fauci will tell you when you can take it off.
            Good idea, Texas.
            History will judge the complicit.

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            • Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

              Good idea, Texas.
              I'm not wearing one, though. Stay away from me.

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              • Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post

                Let's agree to disagree.
                Agreed.

                Stop the mask debates. Neither side is going to change any minds.
                Steve

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                • Our 25 year old son was able to walk into San Francisco General on Saturday and get the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. He was in an out in less than an hour. We now know why. Humboldt County had an extra 1k vaccines last week and offered them up to another county. They had already been moved to a refrigerator so the clock had started ticking and they needed to be used by Sunday. San Francisco County took them. A volunteer pilot flew up to get them, brought them to a nearby airport where two guys, who have been moving vaccines around the city, picked them up and took them where they needed to go. The city/county had been experiencing a shortage of vaccines and these 1k doses represented 10% of their weekly supply. This momma is relieved her son got his first vaccine and is now scheduled for his second! I just hope they have enough to satisfy all the appointments for the second dose (though I suppose if they don't, they will make the second dose a priority over first doses that week).

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                  • I heard that pfizer is now saying people will need a 3rd shot. They should just convince people to get it quarterly. That way, the serum can always be flowing through your body. Forget about your immune system, just take our potion. Forget about getting healthy, just take our pills, we'll make you better.

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                    • We’ve assumed all along that regular booster doses would be needed, just like the flu shot. Currently we don’t yet know how long immunity lasts. We only have 6 or 8 months of data so far.

                      The ideal would be if they can make a combined flu/COVID vaccine that we just get annually.
                      Steve

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                      • I like your idea DS of a combo flu/COVID vaccine annually.

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                        • Question for those not getting the COVID vaccine, is there a specific reason for not getting it (ie, causes cancer, damages DNA, damages reproductive system, etc). Or more general such as the unknown short term or long term effects?

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                          • Originally posted by QuarterMillionMan View Post
                            Question for those not getting the COVID vaccine, is there a specific reason for not getting it (ie, causes cancer, damages DNA, damages reproductive system, etc). Or more general such as the unknown short term or long term effects?
                            For me, im not in fear that my immune system wont be able to fight it off. Im not in any high risk category. I drive a lot for work, I scuba dive, we fly a lot, I work on roofs a couple times a year...covid-19 isnt going to move the needle much on my micromorts.

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                            • Pretty confident mindset. I don't have comorbidities but I'm 55 so my confidence is not as high as your's.

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                              • Originally posted by QuarterMillionMan View Post
                                Pretty confident mindset. I don't have comorbidities but I'm 55 so my confidence is not as high as your's.
                                I dont even look at it as a confidence thing. Ive had a lot of colds/viruses before, some made me pretty sick but ive always recovered. My immune system did what its designed to do. Ive seen it work in the past, I have no reason to believe it wont work in the future. Also, when I look at the numbers of everyone who was infected (that we know of,) and those who died from it...then looked at those who died who were obese, or who had other conditions that could have been prevented if people took care of themselves. I no longer had fear of it after that.

                                My wife is 36 and she's getting her shot this saturday. One of us will have the vaccine, one of us wont. We're diversified.

                                Ill get the vaccine if its required to start traveling in the future, which wouldnt surprise me. At that point if we have to start showing papers to move around freely, we'll have bigger problems on our hands than covid-19.

                                Also, I was feeling really run down 3 weeks ago for approx 5 days. Bad sinus thing too, swollen glands in throat and a cough, which the cough is 95% gone. I probably had covid then but never got tested. Never had a fever, not sure if you always get fevers with covid. Wife never got sick.
                                Last edited by rennigade; 04-21-2021, 08:19 AM.

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