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    Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

    You're nit-picking a really meaningless point here, and trying to sow the same doubt, false accusations, and fear-mongering, using all the telltale buzzwords. "They" and "ruling class" and "elite". Yawn. Biden didn't wear a mask in Jimmy Carter's living room, his own home, where everyone was vaccinated? Nobody cares. And the CDC agrees it was safe to do so.
    Well, it's not a good look for the guy who crafted the edict to be defying his own edict, would you not agree? The CEO of the country? Maybe a bit hypocritical and disingenuous? When the aristocrats do their own deal and force us to do something else, it's always supposed to be meaningless and trivial.

    Reminds me a lot of Putin. I watched an interview with him last night, and he was being quizzed on the couple he had poisoned in London. Of course he said "there is no proof", but then he also followed up with (paraphrase) "why are we bickering about 2 lives? They aren't worth 5 cents" (or whatever the Russian word for "cent" is). Pelosi, Whitmer, Kamala, Kerry, Newsom, Biden. The libs all have these decrees, but they and their friends are above the decrees. Typical.
    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

    -George Carlin

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      Originally posted by rennigade View Post

      This is what we call fear porn. People need their fix and mainstream are the dealers...and a LOT of people are addicted.
      It will be interesting to see what comes after India. That will be getting long-in-the-tooth within a few weeks and we will need something else to scare everyone with.
      Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

      -George Carlin

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        Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post

        Well, it's not a good look for the guy who crafted the edict to be defying his own edict, would you not agree? Maybe a bit hypocritical and disingenuous? When the aristocrats do their own deal and force us to do something else, it's always supposed to be meaningless and trivial. Reminds me a lot of Putin. I watched an interview with him last night, and he was being quizzed on the couple he had poisoned in London. Of course he said "there is no proof", but then he also followed up with (paraphrase) "why are we bickering about 2 lives? They aren't worth 5 cents (or whatever the Russian word for "cent" is). Pelosi, Whitmer, Kamala, Newsom, Biden. They all have these decrees, but they and their friends are above the decrees.
        I'm not seeing this specific point because I don't think it exists. The CDC guidance is clear and no, I see no issue with the vaccinated Bidens and the vaccinated Carters in the Carter's personal living room. Biden's mandate for federal buildings doesn't seem to apply here. If it did, and he ignored it, of all the things a sitting President has claimed to be personal privilege over established law, this literally doesn't matter. But again, to the letter of existing guidance from the CDC, I don't see how he's wrong here.

        This is straying awfully far from the topic at hand, which is the availability and ordering of vaccinations. But I did hit another "Bingo!". I just needed an unrelated mention of Pelosi. I want a prize.

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          Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

          This is straying awfully far from the topic at hand, which is the availability and ordering of vaccinations. But I did hit another "Bingo!". I just needed an unrelated mention of Pelosi. I want a prize.
          Yes, correct. Vaccines are slowing down because of apathy because there is no incentive to get a vaccine, as people still have to act unvaccinated. I employ 47 people - I have a decent idea of the sentiment. State run media would never admit this for obvious reasons, so they are citing "fear." The message from state run media is that those who aren't getting vaccinated are a bunch of deplorable, backwoods Trumpers.

          No one who works for me has expressed "fear", though admittedly maybe a few are.

          When the rules change and people can act vaccinated, they'll get vaccinated. Save for that, I think we will stall out on vaccinations with maybe half or a little more completely vaccinated.
          Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

          -George Carlin

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            Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post

            It will be interesting to see what comes after India. That will be getting long-in-the-tooth within a few weeks and we will need something else to scare everyone with.
            How is it "interesting"? I think it's incredibly sad. But, since all you do is bad-mouth the government, the CDC, and anyone trying to do anything to get us out of this pandemic, I'm not surprised. Maybe you should try waking up on the other side of the bed. What if the media is reporting a current event, and not an agenda? Seems more likely here.

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              Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
              there is no incentive to get a vaccine, as people still have to act unvaccinated.
              You keep saying this but I still don't know what it means other than having to wear a mask in certain situations.

              I am fully vaccinated. My wife is fully vaccinated. Before that was true, we did not enter my mother's apartment building. We did not fly. We did not see friends in person without masks and only outdoors. My wife didn't go inside any stores (I still went grocery shopping).

              Now that we are fully vaccinated, we visit my mom in her apartment without masks. I have flown twice. My wife has flown once and will fly again tomorrow. For the past year she and her friends have been playing Mah Jong virtually but once they were all vaccinated they went back to playing in person, indoors, without masks. We went out to dinner with 2 other couples week before last. Our synagogue reopened for in person services a few weeks ago.

              I could go on and on but the point is that we are certainly not acting like we were before we got vaccinated. We've largely resumed most activities. The only thing I can think of that we haven't done yet is eat indoors at a restaurant.
              Steve

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                Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

                What if the media is reporting a current event, and not an agenda?
                ...wouldn’t that be a fine day. Dig me up.

                Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

                -George Carlin

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                  Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

                  You're nit-picking a really meaningless point here, and trying to sow the same doubt, false accusations, and fear-mongering, using all the telltale buzzwords. "They" and "ruling class" and "elite". Yawn. Biden didn't wear a mask in Jimmy Carter's living room, his own home, where everyone was vaccinated? Nobody cares. And the CDC agrees it was safe to do so.
                  UA_Guy, the specifics aside, I think Texas's larger point is that the ruling class in the US is riddled with hypocrisy. That's a broader point that has some merit.
                  james.c.hendrickson@gmail.com
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                    Originally posted by james.hendrickson View Post

                    UA_Guy, the specifics aside, I think Texas's larger point is that the ruling class in the US is riddled with hypocrisy. That's a broader point that has some merit.
                    Sure. Personally, this isn't the hill I'd choose to die on to prove or argue that point.

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                      Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

                      Sure. Personally, this isn't the hill I'd choose to die on to prove or argue that point.
                      Well, you're right in that its far afield from personal finance, or saving money - and it might explain why some people don't want to get vaccinated. It speaks to a lack of trust.
                      james.c.hendrickson@gmail.com
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                        53 percent of those polled do not trust the political news they are getting from the media. Another 14 percent aren't sure, leaving a confidence percentage of 33 percent.

                        https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._to_help_biden
                        Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

                        -George Carlin

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                          That sounds about right that people distrust everything.
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                                Covid-19 Vaccines vs. Infections
                                By Elliot Bentley
                                May 6, 2021 5:30 am ET
                                Link to article:
                                https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...rt-11620293401

                                "Those numbers are far from what experts say is probably necessary to achieve herd immunity, the point at which enough people become immune such that the whole community is protected. And the average daily rate of vaccinations has fallen by almost a third from its peak in mid-April.
                                While those numbers are frustrating efforts to broaden the vaccinated population, the country does appear to have reached a tipping point in passing the 40% mark—a figure that many public-health experts call an important threshold where vaccinations gain an upper hand over the coronavirus."



                                Looking at the graphic provided in the WSJ article it appears that the vaccine has had a significant impact on states that have had significant outbreaks of the disease.


                                How Is The COVID-19 Vaccination Campaign Going In Your State?
                                Updated May 6, 2021
                                Link to article:
                                https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-in-your-state

                                This week Maine, Connecticut and Vermont lead the way with over 40% of the total population vaccinated.

                                New Hampshire is the winner again this week with more than 60% of the total population receiving at least one dose. Vermont and Massachusetts have reached 58% of the total population receiving at least one dose.

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