Originally posted by kork13
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Anybody buying on this downturn?
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I still disagree with the flash crash theory (though arguably... how would you describe today, 10% down in 1 day?), but I'm with you that their's still more bloodletting to come. I think the panic selling will be approaching a floor over the next few days or maybe weeks.Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
When there is panic selling, you are nearing a bottom. I still think there is a flash crash, quite possibly tomorrow being a Friday, where lots of brokers get the "sell at any cost and get me out" phone calls.
I'm putting in a new round of limit orders, ~2.5% below today's closings. But with these new orders, I'm being more conservative... Smaller amounts (total ~$1k at a time), perhaps making new orders as the previous ones execute (or just once a week), and probably sticking to 2-3% below closing values to give myself a pretty good chance of them executing relatively quickly -- I just need a quick blip down to catch a decent buy.Last edited by kork13; 03-12-2020, 08:04 PM.
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Yes who knows. It’s all very scary for so many - not only investments but jobs, potential illness.
This will pass, but like 9/11, Corona will leave prints on our country. For the next couple of decades, we will all be a little more cautious, and I hope a lot more grateful for the wonderful country we live in, and the many things we have to enjoy and participate in. We’ve got it good.Last edited by TexasHusker; 03-12-2020, 08:26 PM.
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next couple decades? Maybe if we got hit with the 2020 version of the black plague. Couple years from now when people are getting the combination corona-flu vaccines, they'd be laughing at how silly we all were for worrying about it like it's the end of the world.
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I hope you are right.Originally posted by ~bs View Postnext couple decades? Maybe if we got hit with the 2020 version of the black plague. Couple years from now when people are getting the combination corona-flu vaccines, they'd be laughing at how silly we all were for worrying about it like it's the end of the world.
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Define flash crash?Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
When there is panic selling, you are nearing a bottom. I still think there is a flash crash, quite possibly tomorrow being a Friday, where lots of brokers get the "sell at any cost and get me out" phone calls.
Following is applied in one trading session:
especially in relation to the circuit breakers that are activated when the S&P drops 7% (level 1) and there is a 15 minute pause.
then 15% (level 2) with another pause.
then if 20% down the market closes.
I think I have the details right and the basic concept explained correctly.
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Yes. This is going to affect people for years to come. Investments decimated. Jobs lost. People racking up debt to get by. The market might recover in a couple of years but there will be long-lasting effects.Originally posted by TexasHusker View PostYes who knows. It’s all very scary for so many - not only investments but jobs, potential illness.
This will pass, but like 9/11, Corona will leave prints on our country. For the next couple of decades, we will all be a little more cautious, and I hope a lot more grateful for the wonderful country we live in, and the many things we have to enjoy and participate in. We’ve got it good.Steve
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looks like we are going to get a big bounce this morning. could be technical. shorts are getting squeezed.
but not sure if we have hit bottom yet.
the erratic market is out of balance due to way too much uncertainty
i think it might be time to start buying
Brian
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I’m kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on some things I was watching yesterday. I could have done well this morning. I was too busy at work and before I realized it the market was closed. I’ll be watching today.Originally posted by bjl584 View Postlooks like we are going to get a big bounce this morning. could be technical. shorts are getting squeezed.
but not sure if we have hit bottom yet.
the erratic market is out of balance due to way too much uncertainty
i think it might be time to start buyingSteve
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I did a really small conversion end of Feb (about 1K) and then decided maybe we haven't reached the floor. So, I am waiting a bit longer.Originally posted by skives View PostI’m wondering if I should do a 401k to Roth 401k conversion now or if that money that would pay the taxes would be better invested. What do you people think?
Would the money you are investing be after tax money? If you invest it in an after tax account and the market goes down--at least you can tax loss harvest. If you do a conversion and the market goes down you still owe taxes on the higher amount.
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if we're throwing out guesses, i'd say it's a dead cat. we have further to go. Just a datapoint, but keep in mind that we're nowhere near to the levels of the 2009 crisis.... we'd need to drop another 25%Originally posted by bjl584 View Postlooks like we are going to get a big bounce this morning. could be technical. shorts are getting squeezed.
but not sure if we have hit bottom yet.
the erratic market is out of balance due to way too much uncertainty
i think it might be time to start buying
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I hate to say it but I was kind of hoping the slide would continue today. I'm off and ready to buy. I was watching intermittently yesterday at work but couldn't focus and commit. It's early. We'll see how the day goes.Originally posted by ~bs View Post
if we're throwing out guesses, i'd say it's a dead cat. we have further to go. Just a datapoint, but keep in mind that we're nowhere near to the levels of the 2009 crisis.... we'd need to drop another 25%Steve
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I updated our portfolio spreadsheet and our stock allocation has dropped a lot.
I just picked up 300 shares of JETS, the airline ETF, in my Roth. That barely moves the needle on our allocation but I'm still keeping an eye on things.Steve
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yeah, just keep accumulating down. when the market eventually recovers, you'll look like a genius.Originally posted by disneysteve View PostI updated our portfolio spreadsheet and our stock allocation has dropped a lot.
I just picked up 300 shares of JETS, the airline ETF, in my Roth. That barely moves the needle on our allocation but I'm still keeping an eye on things.
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