Is it bad there??

[disneysteve]

yep good plan, it just can't go on indefinitely or we won't have an economy.

Agreed. No argument there. But I still think we’re looking at a few more weeks. Early to mid May most likely.

[mumof2]

Ah. That makes much more sense. Funny that “liberal” means the exact opposite there than it does here. Maybe that’s because you’re on the other side of the world

Yeah that is weird...but us aussie do things differently LOL....but yes they are horrible when it comes to people...no doubt we will all be taxed on everything in the future to pay for the stimulus payments

[mumof2]

Its funny our whole country has just under 6000 cases...I know we are a much more smaller scale only 26 million people in our country...our state has been doing a lot of testing so we have a higher number than some states here but quite a few don't have symtoms or just mild symptoms...we have just had our 2nd death in our state (415 confirmed covid patients) one was from a cruise ship that was stuck in the ocean (princess something) they actually have the police looking into that cruise ship...and an older man who attended awedding in a different state a few weeks ago and many of the people that were at the wedding were from italy...actually most of our cases have been from people travelling from overseas or been in contact with people from overseas or on cruise ships..probably 96%

[Fishindude77]

Regarding all this stimulus talk that is going around ...... has anyone here received one single dime of stimulus, or do you personally know of anyone that has?
I sure as heck don't.

[disneysteve]

I spent some time at our flagship hospital this morning getting oriented in case they need us to come work there. A campus that is usually bustling with activity is eerily quiet. No visitors are allowed so those parking lots are empty. The gift shop is closed. Really nobody but essential workers are present. The two "med-surg" floors are all COVID patients. The ICU and PCU are full with COVID patients. Since there is almost no orthopedic surgery happening except for emergency cases, they've made the joint replacement institute wing where they keep the handful of non-COVID patients. I didn't actually see any patients as it would be a waste of PPE so I just shadowed one of the hospitalists while he was doing his daily rounds but I waited in the work station while he saw the patients.

So bottom line is they are already pretty full with COVID patients with the surge/peak anticipated to be coming over the next 2-3 weeks. Keep staying home. Nobody should be going anywhere that isn't absolutely essential. No Passover or Easter activities. Nothing. Stay home!

[disneysteve]

To date, New Jersey has 44,416 confirmed cases and 1,232 deaths.

As of 1pm today, we're at 47,437 cases and 1,504 deaths so the numbers are still climbing steadily. I haven't gotten the numbers from our hospitals yet.

[Nutria]

Regarding all this stimulus talk that is going around ...... has anyone here received one single dime of stimulus, or do you personally know of anyone that has?
I sure as heck don't.

It's been less than two weeks since the bill was signed. How quickly do you reasonably expect that $1200 to arrive???

[mumof2]

It's been less than two weeks since the bill was signed. How quickly do you reasonably expect that $1200 to arrive???

Well maybe some people have been laid off and some money for food etc...if its anything like australia they are so inundated with people who have left their jobs that getting unemployment is taking a few weeks and mant don't have any money...so maybe thats why they are asking...just saying everyone has different circumstances

[Nutria]

Well maybe some people have been laid off and some money for food etc...if its anything like australia they are so inundated with people who have left their jobs that getting unemployment is taking a few weeks and mant don't have any money...so maybe thats why they are asking...just saying everyone has different circumstances

Crisis or not, no bureaucracy can act so fast to send money to tens of millions of people.

If nothing else, the software must be written (or existing software copied and modified, which is no mean feat), and a canonical list of families (not all of whom file tax returns or give bank accounts when they do file returns) and addresses generated, and processes put in place to snail mail checks to people who can't get the money via EDI.

Bottom line: this is quite a complicated process.

[mumof2]

Bottom line: this is quite a complicated process.[/QUOTE]

Yes I have to agree it is a complicated process...same over here as so inundated with people and businesses that they are having trouble catching up with people who need the payments...although many have received their first stimulus payment over here

[Nutria]

although many have received their first stimulus payment over here

Different laws, different computer systems. How strong is the Australian federal government vs the states? (The US was designed for devolved power instead of federal centralization, and that is more or less baked into the system.)

[disneysteve]

To hear COVID News Network tell it, there are mass warehouses of dying people laying on cots everywhere up there.

Today, Wawa (a large regional chain of convenience store/gas stations) donated a 53-foot refrigerated truck to the state of NJ to be used to store bodies because the morgues and funeral homes are at capacity.

So is it bad here? Yes!

[disneysteve]

Cases at our hospitals up by 18 (12.3%) from yesterday.

[TexasHusker]

I spent some time at our flagship hospital this morning getting oriented in case they need us to come work there. A campus that is usually bustling with activity is eerily quiet. No visitors are allowed so those parking lots are empty. The gift shop is closed. Really nobody but essential workers are present. The two "med-surg" floors are all COVID patients. The ICU and PCU are full with COVID patients. Since there is almost no orthopedic surgery happening except for emergency cases, they've made the joint replacement institute wing where they keep the handful of non-COVID patients. I didn't actually see any patients as it would be a waste of PPE so I just shadowed one of the hospitalists while he was doing his daily rounds but I waited in the work station while he saw the patients.

So bottom line is they are already pretty full with COVID patients with the surge/peak anticipated to be coming over the next 2-3 weeks. Keep staying home. Nobody should be going anywhere that isn't absolutely essential. No Passover or Easter activities. Nothing. Stay home!

I thought the surge was supposed to be now, and hospitalizations in were actually declining? Have they pushed it out some more?

[disneysteve]

I thought the surge was supposed to be now, and hospitalizations in were actually declining? Have they pushed it out some more?

It depends where you are. The peak isn't the same everywhere.