Is Wake Up Now Club a scam?

[Petunia 100]

Because over 90% of the people involved would be making more mopping the floors at McDonald's.

I'm doing better than 90% of the people involved, by simply choosing to not become involved.

[church ave]

I'm doing better than 90% of the people involved, by simply choosing to not become involved.

I am pretty sure that most of those people did not see results with in a certain amount of time and felt it was too hard so they quit. Its not going to work for everyone.

[hamchan]

If over 90% of the people involved are not seeing results it is probably because there is something wrong with the business model. I can't think of any other industry or business model with failure rates like that. And most of them don't require you to annoy your friends and family.

[church ave]

If over 90% of the people involved are not seeing results it is probably because there is something wrong with the business model. I can't think of any other industry or business model with failure rates like that. And most of them don't require you to annoy your friends and family.

The only way i could say that is if you saw those same exact people working just as hard as the people that got to the top. And asking your friends and family for a favor isnt annoying them. It just depends on the person and how you go about it.

[hamchan]

I find it very annoying, as do most people I know. I find it annoying when any of my friends or family ask me for "favors" that involve me giving them money.

I find it highly implausible that 95% of those who sign up for WUN simply lack a decent work ethic. That is pretty ridiculous, don't you think?

[MikeSamps]

Common sense

Of course it's ridiculous. But you won't find a WUN person willing to admit it, because then "who would give them their $100", so they have to hype it up.

If they would just be honest like the person above was and state "Yeah it's not for everyone...and you may not make any money....but if you're willing to give it a try, then pay $100 and take a chance", that would be fine. If they would just state the truth...that IF you can find 12 more people who are willing to invest their $100 and CONTINUE to invest the $100, then as long as they are continuously paying $100, you will make $600"..it would all be fine.

It's the lies that turn people off. Like pretending that all you have to do is find 12 people to sign up and that's it..you're rolling in money...that's a bold face lie. Those people have to continue to pay.

If one person says "This doesn't sound like the best idea", they're immediately hit with "Stay broke loser, you're just pathetic". And it screams desperation and a defensive nature...which if you're in a thriving business market, you wouldn't be..especially since most of the people who think it's a bad idea...aren't broke, it just make those people sound like jokes. If someone says any of the high end brand comapnies are a rip off and a bad investment...those business leaders could care less...they're like "Ok". They don't immediately call the person stupid, because everyone is entitled to their opinion...and many of them KNOW it's a bad investment, so they aren't so defensive.

And the truth is..point blank...Yes...a FEW people have made money, but the MAJORITY don't and won't...and it's not a good investment. Period.

If I have an income disclosure for my company stating "80% lose money". And then someone tells me "Hey, most people will lose money in your company". My response would be "true...look at my literature". Not..."Fine, keep your crappy job...we don't want you anyway". LOL

I guess the truth hurts sometimes.

[church ave]

Of course it's ridiculous. But you won't find a WUN person willing to admit it, because then "who would give them their $100", so they have to hype it up.

If they would just be honest like the person above was and state "Yeah it's not for everyone...and you may not make any money....but if you're willing to give it a try, then pay $100 and take a chance", that would be fine. If they would just state the truth...that IF you can find 12 more people who are willing to invest their $100 and CONTINUE to invest the $100, then as long as they are continuously paying $100, you will make $600"..it would all be fine.

It's the lies that turn people off. Like pretending that all you have to do is find 12 people to sign up and that's it..you're rolling in money...that's a bold face lie. Those people have to continue to pay.

If one person says "This doesn't sound like the best idea", they're immediately hit with "Stay broke loser, you're just pathetic". And it screams desperation and a defensive nature...which if you're in a thriving business market, you wouldn't be..especially since most of the people who think it's a bad idea...aren't broke, it just make those people sound like jokes. If someone says any of the high end brand comapnies are a rip off and a bad investment...those business leaders could care less...they're like "Ok". They don't immediately call the person stupid, because everyone is entitled to their opinion...and many of them KNOW it's a bad investment, so they aren't so defensive.

And the truth is..point blank...Yes...a FEW people have made money, but the MAJORITY don't and won't...and it's not a good investment. Period.

If I have an income disclosure for my company stating "80% lose money". And then someone tells me "Hey, most people will lose money in your company". My response would be "true...look at my literature". Not..."Fine, keep your crappy job...we don't want you anyway". LOL

I guess the truth hurts sometimes.

I was with you until you messed up way it works. Thats the reason why i think people should listen to people who have done it the right way, or people thay are doing it. Or read the compensation plan better. Once you get your first 3, your membership is free. Once any one gets into wake up now and get 3 people, you never have to pay for anything again. Period. Like i said, i amn not evem doing wake up now, but giving people flawed info isnt good

[MikeSamps]

Facts

I was with you until you messed up way it works. Thats the reason why i think people should listen to people who have done it the right way, or people thay are doing it. Or read the compensation plan better. Once you get your first 3, your membership is free. Once any one gets into wake up now and get 3 people, you never have to pay for anything again. Period. Like i said, i amn not evem doing wake up now, but giving people flawed info isnt good

If anyone simply reads the compensation plan, you will clearly see that the truth is yes, once you get your first 3, your membership is free...and you won't have to pay for anything again...AS LONG AS those three either:
a.) continue to pay their fee EVERY month
or
b.) they find someone downline of them who will continue to pay.

The bottom line is, someone downline of you will have to continue to pay the fee EVERY month...and the second one of those 3 stops, you either have to pay it again (that next month)..or find someone else who will. That's why I say it's continuous recruiting.

To either not have to pay the fee...or to make money, those downline of you have to be "active" members..not one time buyers. Active means they are continuously paying or someone downline of them is continuing to pay.

[church ave]

If anyone simply reads the compensation plan, you will clearly see that the truth is yes, once you get your first 3, your membership is free...and you won't have to pay for anything again...AS LONG AS those three either:
a.) continue to pay their fee EVERY month
or
b.) they find someone downline of them who will continue to pay.

The bottom line is, someone downline of you will have to continue to pay the fee EVERY month...and the second one of those 3 stops, you either have to pay it again (that next month)..or find someone else who will. That's why I say it's continuous recruiting.

To either not have to pay the fee...or to make money, those downline of you have to be "active" members..not one time buyers. Active means they are continuously paying or someone downline of them is continuing to pay.

Eh. Your kind of wrong again. First off, yes its continous recruiting. This mlm invovles the product directly in the membership, so the more people you get, the more product you sell. Also, someone does not have to always be paying. Alot of people are paying someones way to get in. Some people are paying 100 once and never having to pay it again because they get their 3 fast and their downline is paying the same. My friends up line knows him, paid for him to get in, and pluged the 3 people under him the first day.

[MikeSamps]

Facts!

Eh. Your kind of wrong again. First off, yes its continous recruiting. This mlm invovles the product directly in the membership, so the more people you get, the more product you sell. Also, someone does not have to always be paying. Alot of people are paying someones way to get in. Some people are paying 100 once and never having to pay it again because they get their 3 fast and their downline is paying the same. My friends up line knows him, paid for him to get in, and pluged the 3 people under him the first day.

No it's still right. That's why if you look at my post above, I state "...or b.) they find someone downline of them who will continue to pay. But someone (either yourself...or someone in your downline) does have to continue to pay. That's why the compensation plan states that they have to remain "ACTIVE" & not just one time buyers.

Bottom line, either you are paying $100 every month or you're constantly bringing people in to maintain either your free membership or residual (which according to the WUN plan..only a very small percentage EVER even earn a residual)..you can google the comp plan. If all you want to do is have your membership free. You don't bring 3 people in and that's it & it's always free for you. The only way that is true is if, those 3 either a.) continue to pay...or b.) bring people in under them who either a.) pay...or b.) bring people under them who.....it’s continuous…and why some see it as a pyramid. It's continuous recruiting & not based on a product. There is a product, but that’s not the main sell. Not all pyramids are illegal.

So it's not just bring 3 in & stop. Someone..either you...or someone in your downline has to remain ACTIVE. Bottom line..the money has to continue to come in. Either from yourself...or someone downline of you. Like I said, if someone is paying someone's way to get in...the money is coming from somewhere. It's one or the other. Either a.) you bring 3 in and that's it...or it's continuous recruiting. It can't be both. The proof is in the pudding. The WUN compensation plan states that they have to be "ACTIVE". And since they have to be active, some people would prefer minimum wage jobs vs. continuously recruiting strangers & family. To each their own.

And in the friend example that you give...even if the 3 were "plugged under him the 1st day"...in order for his membership to REMAIN free...someone downline has to continue to do the same...so if your friend does nothing else except have someone pay for him to get in...and 3 under him are plugged in quickly so he doesn't have to pay the next month. If he does nothing at all that next month...then the month after that, those 3 that were plugged in BETTER either be paying or having someone pay for them...or they have to bring 3 more in...and if not, your friend will have to pay. That's why it will crumble...because at some point, someone downline will stop paying…their aren’t an infinite amount of people in the world…at some point, it run’s it’s course and crumbles or transitions in to another MLM or comes up with another product that people will go for.

[church ave]

No it's still right. That's why if you look at my post above, I state "...or b.) they find someone downline of them who will continue to pay. But someone (either yourself...or someone in your downline) does have to continue to pay. That's why the compensation plan states that they have to remain "ACTIVE" & not just one time buyers.

Bottom line, either you are paying $100 every month or you're constantly bringing people in to maintain either your free membership or residual (which according to the WUN plan..only a very small percentage EVER even earn a residual)..you can google the comp plan. If all you want to do is have your membership free. You don't bring 3 people in and that's it & it's always free for you. The only way that is true is if, those 3 either a.) continue to pay...or b.) bring people in under them who either a.) pay...or b.) bring people under them who.....it’s continuous…and why some see it as a pyramid. It's continuous recruiting & not based on a product. There is a product, but that’s not the main sell. Not all pyramids are illegal.

So it's not just bring 3 in & stop. Someone..either you...or someone in your downline has to remain ACTIVE. Bottom line..the money has to continue to come in. Either from yourself...or someone downline of you. Like I said, if someone is paying someone's way to get in...the money is coming from somewhere. It's one or the other. Either a.) you bring 3 in and that's it...or it's continuous recruiting. It can't be both. The proof is in the pudding. The WUN compensation plan states that they have to be "ACTIVE". And since they have to be active, some people would prefer minimum wage jobs vs. continuously recruiting strangers & family. To each their own.

And in the friend example that you give...even if the 3 were "plugged under him the 1st day"...in order for his membership to REMAIN free...someone downline has to continue to do the same...so if your friend does nothing else except have someone pay for him to get in...and 3 under him are plugged in quickly so he doesn't have to pay the next month. If he does nothing at all that next month...then the month after that, those 3 that were plugged in BETTER either be paying or having someone pay for them...or they have to bring 3 more in...and if not, your friend will have to pay. That's why it will crumble...because at some point, someone downline will stop paying…their aren’t an infinite amount of people in the world…at some point, it run’s it’s course and crumbles or transitions in to another MLM or comes up with another product that people will go for.

You have it right, but your mindset is flawed imo. Its 100 first off, so most people will not have trouble getting people to join in the first month because of the intial investment. The average person will want to join and get others to make their member ship free if not for any else, just for the travel perks and everything like that. The only people that have to pay is someone that just joined or dont have their 3 yet, but again this is something that is alot faster then you think. My friend just added his boy and his boy got 2 people to join in the same night. I get with you mean that there are not an infinite amount of people in the world, but at the same time, some of the money made to purchase things is then given back to people in the organization. And i also understand what you mean about things might change or fall. But honestly, that will take a very long time before people will not want to do that any more. There is so much growth in this that its crazy. Not saying its for everyone, bc it isnt. But to say it doesnt work is wrong.

[drew.bledsoe1]

Theres A Bonehead Named Jeffrey Ayala

Feel free to prove to me that it's not a scam. You should post up a copy of your W2 showing everyone just how much money you supposedly made doing this.

THERES A BONEHEAD BY THE NAME OF JEFFREY AYALA WHOS A WAKE-UP-NOW THUMPER! STAY AWAY AT ALL COSTS! HE TRIES SO HARD TO CONVERT PEOPLE INTO THIS SCAM!

[Elotes19]

Okay, so I have a friend that has been spamming my fb page regarding WUN and, by the looks of it, I could tell it was a scam. He has recently been posting money he has received from WUN and getting more of my friends into this scam. I have been trying to find any evidence that prove that WUN is a type of pyramid scheme but I can't. Instead I have been met with members using shameful tactics to persuade confused people into joining them. Such as posting videos titled "Wake UP Now is a scam, find out now!" but instead of showing relevant information, they go on to tell you the damn "benefits" of joining WUN. I could wait for them to begin losing money, but I would rather shove the actual facts in their faces before that happens.

[church ave]

Okay, so I have a friend that has been spamming my fb page regarding WUN and, by the looks of it, I could tell it was a scam. He has recently been posting money he has received from WUN and getting more of my friends into this scam. I have been trying to find any evidence that prove that WUN is a type of pyramid scheme but I can't. Instead I have been met with members using shameful tactics to persuade confused people into joining them. Such as posting videos titled "Wake UP Now is a scam, find out now!" but instead of showing relevant information, they go on to tell you the damn "benefits" of joining WUN. I could wait for them to begin losing money, but I would rather shove the actual facts in their faces before that happens.

So how will you feel if your friend is starting to bring in an extra 2,500, 5,000, or even 10,000 a month. Then would you still feel the same way?

[btctony]

So how will you feel if your friend is starting to bring in an extra 2,500, 5,000, or even 10,000 a month. Then would you still feel the same way?

I'd feel happy for them, but no one joining this club at this point will ever bring in that type of income. Most will lose money. In order to make that kind of money, you'd have to think up your own scam, and start scamming people. LOL.