Is Wake Up Now Club a scam?

[bjl584]

as I explained earlier I knew I wouldn't lose money because I was getting the extra 7% off a month on my cell bill. That covered most of the cost at $24.95 so it seemed like a no risk venture.

If $24.95 represents 7% of your monthly cell phone bill, then your monthly cell phone bill is $356.43.

That's outrageous (if it's true.)

We can help you with that. This is a financial advice forum after all. Maybe we can look at ways of trimming your expenses if you'd be willing to post up your budget.

[RSinsights]

Exactly

If it's true... See I just love that the moderator himself (if that's true) is so amazingly biased. Moderator, if you really are one, since you are unwiling to accept that any information other than that information that agrees with your current assumptions is fabricated why even have a forum? Nevermind, the obvious answer is that you want people to validate your ideas instead of experiencing growth. So you assume that not only am I lying to increase the value of my savings but that I am not intelligent enough to handle my budget and that somehow "Moderator" has valuable opinions and thoughts that can help me out? That's some pretty thick irony if you ask me. You dismiss my personal experience as a lie, suggest I'm stupid, and then offer to help... Sounds like typical MLM BS to me. Moderator do you have an agenda here or you trying to recruit me? or are you just an ass?

I am 100% confident that I can find something on this site somewhere that I haven't considered because based on the math I have to assume that there are others somewhere who have had unique experiences that can contribute to my understanding and may be able to add value to my current program. I would be a fool to think that was not the case.... Maybe when I start to think like that you could make me a moderator too?

[bjl584]

or are you just an ass?

I can be.

But,
The word salad that you just posted didn't answer my question. Does $24.95 really represent 7% of your monthly phone bill? If it does, then you have way bigger problems than trying to defend a MLM on an internet forum board. Good luck to you.

[RSinsights]

Really?

See I was confused because you didn't seem honestly concerned with what I was saying only in supporting your valuable opinion. :P

My cell phone bill is actually not a problem for me and it is the lowest rate for the services I require. I have 8 smartphones all of which carry min data plans. 2 of those phones are grandfathered to unlimited data plans which allow me to use them for hotspots when I need them and they aren't slowed as I increase usage via the carrier.

I never have overage in mins and everyone using the plan uses text and inter carrier calls so the plan I'm on is actually quite reasonable. I check the limits each billing period to see if I can reduce the plan for individual months because my carrier will back date those charges to the previous month as long as I call before the end of the current billing cycle. So occasionally I do save an additional $20 a month by reducing the plan because of under usage.

Not only have I done my research on available plans with other carriers (with an open mind even) but I do the research every few months to make sure I am still getting the best value again for what I need.

The very fact that you assume a cell phone bill that is higher than most is somehow based on my lack of understanding is far more a reflection on your understanding I think.

You can't wrap your head around the fact that someone could have a need for that much so why would I feel that you could assist me if you can't even understand the basis for the expenses that I have?

It is a little ridiculous isn't it? You don't understand my expenses context call me a liar and suggest you can add value to my understanding?

The height of arrogance... Anyway, to be fair I come across like an ass on the internet too so no judgement from me but clearly you can see why I wouldn't be jumping at the chance to have you teach me.

[Petunia 100]

Really? if that's the case then why are many fortune 500 companies like Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart do business with Wake Up Now, and why are many people in WUN are making 5 figures a month with just a 100 dollar investment? You said its a scam, prove it! I don't think you can.

What specifically do you mean when you say "do business with"?

[Darren Johnston]

It is a scam

The "discounts" are available online, for free. You don't need to pay $100 a month to join a club that saves money on free coupons. Other discounts on "free" language learning software ect is crap nobody uses but you'd be paying for these unnecessary services if you join .

This is a blatant pyramid scheme. They don't even have a tangible product, it's a "service" that gives you discounts on things that are already freely available (such as grocery coupons). By losing more money than you make just as a standalone service,, it's misleading to say the least that it'll help you with "financial wellness and savings".

People join this stupid scam with the promise of making money. You make $600/month by having 12 people enrolled beneath you. If you have 11 people or less enrolled you make $0. If you have less than 3 people enrolled under you then you lose about $80 a month (you save a percentage on your phone bill. If your phone bill is $100 and is either Verizon or AT&T, then saving "up to" 20% of that is $20.)

3% of people in the business make decent money. Page 22 of the compensation plan. I can't link anything because I'm a new user, but google "wakeupnow comp plan" it's on page 22.

Also, the income figures are schewed. The "average income" is highly distorted by throwing in one fake high earner. If the earnings per month vary by 1000% I don't believe it's accuracy one bit.

Please entertain me on how I would save money by joining your business - paying $100 a month as a standalone customer. I use grocery coupons (the discounts you claim to give that are actually free), a $20 savings on my phone bill (which is small in comparison to the $80 I'd be losing), and rationalize paying for a plethora of services that I have no intention on using. (I don't feel like learning Scandinavian this month).

If i am wrong give specific examples and cite your sources from the wakeupnow website. The burden of proof isn't on the consumer, it's on YOU

[paysdaily]

There are countless companies out there like this. Stay away. Odds are you will lose a lot more money than you ever make.

OP, if you are looking for additional income then go get yourself a part time job. Someplace that you can physically go to, do actual tangible work, and get a real paycheck every week. No strange monthly fees, no signing up other members, no arbitrary online presence.

Who in there right mind want to get a second job to try and make ends meet first off why would any one want to work a job didn't you get the memo it's pyramid scheme last time I checked you are at the of a J.O.B you will never be able to enjoy your life financially working a pay check and if you ok with that I feel sorry for you cause most people think it's ok to work a job and get paid what the company wants you to have, I will try my luck in mlm seems like it has created more millionaire's than any other industry.

[paysdaily]

The "discounts" are available online, for free. You don't need to pay $100 a month to join a club that saves money on free coupons. Other discounts on "free" language learning software ect is crap nobody uses but you'd be paying for these unnecessary services if you join .

This is a blatant pyramid scheme. They don't even have a tangible product, it's a "service" that gives you discounts on things that are already freely available (such as grocery coupons). By losing more money than you make just as a standalone service,, it's misleading to say the least that it'll help you with "financial wellness and savings".

People join this stupid scam with the promise of making money. You make $600/month by having 12 people enrolled beneath you. If you have 11 people or less enrolled you make $0. If you have less than 3 people enrolled under you then you lose about $80 a month (you save a percentage on your phone bill. If your phone bill is $100 and is either Verizon or AT&T, then saving "up to" 20% of that is $20.)

3% of people in the business make decent money. Page 22 of the compensation plan. I can't link anything because I'm a new user, but google "wakeupnow comp plan" it's on page 22.

Also, the income figures are schewed. The "average income" is highly distorted by throwing in one fake high earner. If the earnings per month vary by 1000% I don't believe it's accuracy one bit.

Please entertain me on how I would save money by joining your business - paying $100 a month as a standalone customer. I use grocery coupons (the discounts you claim to give that are actually free), a $20 savings on my phone bill (which is small in comparison to the $80 I'd be losing), and rationalize paying for a plethora of services that I have no intention on using. (I don't feel like learning Scandinavian this month).

If i am wrong give specific examples and cite your sources from the wakeupnow website. The burden of proof isn't on the consumer, it's on YOU

Well Darren I'm not in wake up now but what I do understand is the concept as I can see with the mind set that you have you won't be going any where in life with your mentality, keep working your job and see if you get any where in life, I can tell you this direct selling and online business have created more millionaire's than any other industry, let me ask you this when you said 12 people under you, I do see 12 people over you on your job making more money than you will you be able to make more than them probably not, so what will happen to your income in the next 10 to 20 yrs for now, how will you meet your income needs when you are older, start thinking about your future stop being stuck.

[Darren Johnston]

Well Darren I'm not in wake up now but what I do understand is the concept as I can see with the mind set that you have you won't be going any where in life with your mentality, keep working your job and see if you get any where in life, I can tell you this direct selling and online business have created more millionaire's than any other industry, let me ask you this when you said 12 people under you, I do see 12 people over you on your job making more money than you will you be able to make more than them probably not, so what will happen to your income in the next 10 to 20 yrs for now, how will you meet your income needs when you are older, start thinking about your future stop being stuck.

1) It's strange to say that you're not involved with this company but then defend it despite the reasons I gave in my last post saying why it wasn't a good company.
2) My mentality won't get me anywhere in life? So questioning with logical reasoning will lead me nowhere. Gotcha. While I take logic 101 you might consider taking a few English classes.
3) If direct selling creates so many millionaires why don't we just turn every business into a pyramid scheme? Have people pay wages to be in the company, then have them keep their jobs by recruiting people. Pyramid schemes are about over saturating a market without addressing demand. If you knew a little bit of economics you would see why this is a bad idea.
4) you need 12 people to make any wage at all. By working a job you are guaranteed a wage.
5) pyramid schemes are constantly imploding - that's why they introduce new products or change into new companies constantly.
6) you didn't address anything specifically in my post or respond to the arguments I made, yet you attack my mentality without pointing out why I was wrong.

[RSinsights]

Lol

To Wit.

[Wino]

And don't forget that you get a free unicorn after five years of paid-up fees.

[affanali]

wake up now is not a scam

Wake up now is the the google of internet marketing. Its a good opportunity to save money manage money and mak money ive been apart of it for quite a while

[lorraineb]

Wake up now is the the google of internet marketing.

This is a perfect example of a red flag. When someone makes a statement like this, you know it's time to run away as fast as possible.

[GeminiDogg46]

Feel free to prove to me that it's not a scam. You should post up a copy of your W2 showing everyone just how much money you supposedly made doing this.

No, I am not gonna give you my W2 because we're not employees of WUN; We are Independent Contractors that we get what is called a W9 form at the end of year. Therefore, we're responsible for paying our own taxes; and even if I did have a copy of my W-9 form I won't give it to you; and since you're already dodging my questions that WUN is a scam and I asked you to prove it, you know I'll get you in a trap because you could not come up any answers.

Thanks for playing though.

[Petunia 100]

No, I am not gonna give you my W2 because we're not employees of WUN; We are Independent Contractors that we get what is called a W9 form at the end of year. Therefore, we're responsible for paying our own taxes; and even if I did have a copy of my W-9 form I won't give it to you; and since you're already dodging my questions that WUN is a scam and I asked you to prove it, you know I'll get you in a trap because you could not come up any answers.

Thanks for playing though.

Actually, what you get at the end of the year is a 1099-Misc. The W-9 is the form you fill out and give to WUN, providing your name, address, and tax ID number so that the 1099-Misc can later be issued.

Why would other people need to prove it is a scam? Is that how the world works? I am obligated to invest my money and time whenever asked unless I can prove it is a scam? It seems to me you have that backwards.