Is Wake Up Now Club a scam?

[theauthor]

I'm glad I stumbled upon this thread. I too was also interested in joining wake up now. I found that most of the products it offer I already get a better deal through my company. I get a 23% discount on my cell phone bill and received a considerable amount on vacation discounts (company paid). So this company would not work for me. All I will say is for someone that is looking for answers to from your own opinion, do your own research and if it is for you then go for it. Otherwise if you are having second thoughts then stay away. Now I am not bashing the company because it works for some people and others not so much.

[m33rkat]

Lol

Anyone who honestly joins Wakeupnow after seeing this thread shouldn't be alive. The only people who have said it's good have <10 posts; it'd probably be better in their case to just not post

[Iceyy]

Question

So I have a friend that got sucked into this scam and I don't want to see his downfall. He tell me these "points" when I try to tell him why he should get out of WakeUpNow. Please tell me some shear info on this points so I can prove to him that he need to give up this Get Money Quick scam and just get a normal job like the rest of us.

Visa wouldn't put a brand on a Scam...

The BBB wouldn't rate a bogus company with an A

The DSA wouldn't support the legitimacy of WakeUpNow if it was fake.

[William Thatch]

So I have a friend that got sucked into this scam and I don't want to see his downfall. He tell me these "points" when I try to tell him why he should get out of WakeUpNow. Please tell me some shear info on this points so I can prove to him that he need to give up this Get Money Quick scam and just get a normal job like the rest of us.

Visa wouldn't put a brand on a Scam...

The BBB wouldn't rate a bogus company with an A

The DSA wouldn't support the legitimacy of WakeUpNow if it was fake.

none of those "facts" that he's passing along negate Wakeupnow's (WUN) own income disclosure statement that states the overall failure of the program for a massive majority of people who get involved. i mean, if the company is telling its participants that it's a poor investment, why the HELL would anyone get involved? but people still do because they get conned by the idiots spamming them on facebook. people are dumb, irresponsible and gullible - they are generally vulnerable and never learned as children when and how to properly execute research. nobody who makes wise decisions in their life jumps into something where you pay to join...to make money...yet fails to seek out the various disclosures that the companies are required to make. those types of disclosures are the best bet at seeing the true colors of anything like this - and people are so ignorant that they don't even know they are out there. that's really why i joined this thread in the first place.

i mean, look at me: i would never in a million years waste a second or a dime on this sort of crap but the lack of smarts by so many people spurred me to look up the income disclosure statement. it's a classic pyramid scheme...that is apparently legal. but a lot of things are legal - the lottery is legal...gambling is legal in casinos...that doesn't mean those things are good investments, hahaha.

fact is, you can't purposely position yourself to get something for nothing on a regular basis. the universe doesn't work that way.

but yeah, check out my post a few above this one. it explains things pretty clearly about the income disclosure statement that Wakeupnow (WUN) provides.

PS - the group that bothers me the most re: getting involved in this idiocy are police. i know police officers are generally not cerebral juggernauts but the poor decision making and lack of research are SO amazing to me. police are supposed to by nature be inquisitive, interrogatory and investigative. i guess as a tax payer you don't always get what you pay for

[hamchan]

I feel the same way about doctors recommending the HCG diet. I mean, really?! It's really hard to convince your friends and family that it's a scam when someone who went to medical school put them on it in the first place.

[SkysTheLimit1211]

So, I just joined WUN a few days ago. Yes I have read through this entire thread. Let's just say curiosity got the better of me to see what is really involved with everything.

I know its basically a legalized pyramid scheme, but I am really curious if it is possible to make the minimum 600 dollar per month payout with honesty and integrity. Its kind of terrible how many people involved are advertising this as a get rich quick scheme. From what I've seen so far, at best, it's a slow grind.

BUT for the sake of being open minded, and to put this all to rest, I decided to put up my own 100 bucks to join to see for myself all the "savings" they claim, as well as to see how hard it really is to get people to sign up when being honest, to see if it is possible to get to the "600 per month club" in a reasonable amount of time, and share the results with everybody.

I understand there's 99 percent chance of losing 100 or 200 dollars and then quitting, and 100 dollars is no pocket change for me, but like I said, curiosity has gotten the better of me.

This is obviously not an outright scam, as in you pay them and then you get nothing and lose your money. I feel it's more of a scam in the way its advertised and the selling of false hopes. However, if the the core of the companies values were actually created with any honesty at all (I doubt it), if there's a chance (however small it may be) that this business can be grown honestly, and actually help people save money and make money, then what the hell, I can test it out, give myself (and everyone else) a definitive answer, and not think about these types of marketing opportunities ever again.

Everything I've learned and experienced tells me I'm about to lose 100 bucks lol, but still sometimes you just never know. Here's to giving this a try and sharing the results, I'll keep you guys informed. Cheers!

[Wino]

If you would have taken the same $100 and put it on "red 7," you could have made $3500 in less than a minute. That's not a scam, either, as they tell you the odds up front, so it's just as legitimate as WUN, and probably more likely to work out.

[SkysTheLimit1211]

If you would have taken the same $100 and put it on "red 7," you could have made $3500 in less than a minute. That's not a scam, either, as they tell you the odds up front, so it's just as legitimate as WUN, and probably more likely to work out.

Next time I'm curious about something that costs a hundred bucks maybe I'll do just that.

[MikeSamps]

So I have a friend that got sucked into this scam and I don't want to see his downfall. He tell me these "points" when I try to tell him why he should get out of WakeUpNow. Please tell me some shear info on this points so I can prove to him that he need to give up this Get Money Quick scam and just get a normal job like the rest of us.

Visa wouldn't put a brand on a Scam...

The BBB wouldn't rate a bogus company with an A

The DSA wouldn't support the legitimacy of WakeUpNow if it was fake.

-Visa wouldn't put a brand on a Scam...

Visa is all about $...and making money. They'll put their logo on anything that will make them money. People get pre-paid debit/credit cards all the time, where the money on the card is money you deposit. Just because Visa put their logo on a credit card....DOES NOT mean it's a sound investment. They aren't validating a product by allowing members to have pre-paid debit cards. That's actually a smart business move for Visa because every time members have money deposited on the card Visa charges fees to redeem the funds. Pre-paid debit cards 101

-The BBB wouldn't rate a bogus company with an A

WUN is not accredit with the BBB. Tell your friend to research this. It just isn't true. There was an independent study done by ABC on companies that pay for A's from the BBB. So I'd take a rating that is paid for with a grain of salt honestly. There are numerous companies that have had A ratings that are now shut-down and have been deemed illegal.

-The DSA wouldn't support the legitimacy of WakeUpNow if it was fake.
Wake Up Now is not fake. It's very real. It's just a horrible investment.

I mean Madoff operated for YEARS before he was found out & sent to prison. Not saying anyone in WUN will go to prison (at least I hope not), but just because something is "still operating" doesn't mean it's legit.

But your friend still probably won't want to hear it or even admit that he hears you, so good luck.

Look at it like this, when you're applying for a company....any company to work for...and before you interview, you google the company....how many times and why would you see tons and tons of links and comments on the company being associated with 'scam' or 'pyramid'. This simply does not happen with sound and legitimate companies. With anything you're about to invest in, if you begin your research and start seeing these 'key-words' associated from multiple people & multiple sources....run for the hills.

[davianfrazier]

Wake up now is a game changer!!

[lorraineb]

Wake up now is a game changer!!

Well, if you mean "game changer" in the sense of every other mlm out there that always makes the exact same claim and then doesn't change anything, then I would have to agree with you.

[SmartMoneyDepot]

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck

[SkysTheLimit1211]

Well here's an update since joining.

If you are extremely lucky and have a good grasp on marketing you definitely can make some money with this, however you'll probably lose your soul in the process.

I've been in a little over a week, and have almost one person signing up. I feel like a total scumbag though, so, there's that.

[SkysTheLimit1211]

Sooooooo. I can't keep it up. I've been stressed to high hell with the unethical nature of the company/business. The only way to sell memberships is by lying and selling false hopes, as THEY HAVE NO WHERE NEAR 100 dollars of value for what they offer.

I thought I could at least keep with it for a month, I'm sure I can get my 3 people, I have people asking me to sign up, but then what? I can't screw them over, and ask them to screw other people over.

I knew this would be bad but ugh, its disgusting, wasted 100 bucks, but at least I got my definitive answer.

ANYBODY OUT THERE READING! I wasted my hundred bucks, don't make the same mistake. If this post stops at least one person from joining, then I'll consider it worth the money. Please Please Please Please do not join, I did the experiment for you, SAVE YOUR MONEY. If you want any specific info then please message me or post here, just please don't waste your hard earned money. Thanks!

[RSinsights]

Same Song

Still no data just hyperbole and conjecture from both sides of the "discussion".. I will loosely call it a discussion although there is no actual discussing going on.

To Skysthelimit, what did you or didn't you use? If you were only looking to save money why on earth would you agree to pay $100 a month when you could pay $25 and get the same benefits or at least give it a try and risk 25% of your initial investment? This type of illogical decision from someone who is suggesting that they were conducting research seems odd frankly.

Anyone that is naive enough to think that any industry, and especially MLM's, are easy money are not going to do well in any field. MLM's tend to attract those who would rather dream than do so it is justly generalized that those involved tend towards this mentality.

Knowing that those who are eager to dream and far less likely to work explains typical MLM earnings ratios as a high percentage of those involved are just waiting for the money to start rolling in. The question is if this is the fault of the system or the fault of those involved. I say it's probably both. Those who structure MLM models are aware that their user base is heavily weighted with those who do not perform, it's not a big secret but that doesn't necessarily order a dismissal of the offering. Those who sign up to earn big money and assume it will be easy may as well walk into a engineers job and announce that they are ready to start designing stuff without any background or applicable skills.

Clearly a major difference between this particular company and many others is that they aren't selling magic fruit water from the amazon or magic beans that will help you live forever as most of the recent MLM organizations have built around. This company has revived the old school Amway, Mary Kay, Avon model where actual products are sold and distributed. This is a reflection of an older model where you would secure a store front and negotiate with companies to provide their products to the public which nobody has ever called a scam despite the markups and profit to the store.

All that being said clearly the company is in compliance so to suggest technically that it is a scam is ridiculous.

If however the suggestion is that it is misleading or it's promises are false, well that could be and may likely be correct. As I stated, in this model there tends to be many who are not data driven and are not particularly interested in hard numbers. Many use exaggeration as a baseline and go up from there this is why most won't produce documentation of actual earnings etc.

The point I am trying to make, and have tried to make previously, is this.... WUN is clearly not a scam but if you base decisions in your life on undocumented, third party, visionary data with no due diligence... you're gonna have a bad time.

I have outlined my experience and while I would never pay $100 a month or even close to that, I am fine with the product at $25 and it does provide enough value for me to keep paying it.

The product has provided value to my life.

Here are the brass tacks... everyone here it seems wants to express one extreme or the other nobody is being rational and looking at the actual model objectively... which is what everyone came here to read! (ATTN: Mods this was directed at you. I want an objective analysis of things from a site supposedly filled with people interested in savings not a texting match of extremes and shout downs) So objectively in my opinion, the product is a B grade product. It creates value but not a huge impact on my life. Opportunity grade is probably a D- if you are looking to recruit and build a "team" or whatever the hell they call it.

How's that word salad Bill?