Is Wake Up Now Club a scam?

[SkysTheLimit1211]

How about paying 0 dollars for the same benefits lol.

The entire vacation club is a sham, they are just an affiliate of third party clubs where you can sign up for free yourself. You can start your own wake up now for free and start charging others to join if you like, probably a better investment. Don't believe me? check the source code of the sites, you can see exactly where their "deals" come from.

I could have made money with the company, but I wouldn't sleep well. If you admit the products aren't worth 100 per month, and that people are selling the "opportunity", well that is a pyramid scheme. "No it's not, pyramid schemes don't have products, WUN does!" They really don't, it's just a thinly veiled disguise to differentiate itself legally, why do you think they started selling energy drinks recently? Even your upline will admit, you are supposed to sell the membership not the opportunity, because that would make it a pyramid scheme, since there is no value in the product, you're just left with the pyramid.

I'm not saying someone can't find value in the 25 dollar membership. But that's not what i'm reviewing, I was reviewing the "business opportunity'. For the life of the company, for everyone person making money,there will be 9 losing money. The "product" they receive for the money they lose isn't really a products, it's thin air disguised as a product, and therein lies the scam. thanks and goodnight


EDIT: Just waited on hold for 2 hours to cancel, got hung up on.

[KJ.]

Sooooooo. I can't keep it up. I've been stressed to high hell with the unethical nature of the company/business. The only way to sell memberships is by lying and selling false hopes, as THEY HAVE NO WHERE NEAR 100 dollars of value for what they offer.

I thought I could at least keep with it for a month, I'm sure I can get my 3 people, I have people asking me to sign up, but then what? I can't screw them over, and ask them to screw other people over.

I knew this would be bad but ugh, its disgusting, wasted 100 bucks, but at least I got my definitive answer.

ANYBODY OUT THERE READING! I wasted my hundred bucks, don't make the same mistake. If this post stops at least one person from joining, then I'll consider it worth the money. Please Please Please Please do not join, I did the experiment for you, SAVE YOUR MONEY. If you want any specific info then please message me or post here, just please don't waste your hard earned money. Thanks!

Sky, I'm a WUN member but have had some issues with them as well. I'm curious to know how your experience with it was.

[William Thatch]

Still no data

no data? until Wakeupnow (WUN) apparently changed their income disclosure statement access rules in the last week or so, i provided hard data from the company itself (via their own income disclosure statement) that states a massive majority of people who join Wakeupnow (WUN) will make pennies...or nothing at all.

i am very interested to see why the link for that ids now requires a login. as far as i know that ids is supposed to be readily available to the public. maybe it's a matter of browser cookies or something. i'll try again tomorrow.

[SkysTheLimit1211]

Sky, I'm a WUN member but have had some issues with them as well. I'm curious to know how your experience with it was.

No problem what would you like to know? If you prefer to talk in private you can send me your email or something, I don't see a PM box anywhere

[WowJustWow]

Want to know if its a scam? How difficult is it to cancel your membership?

[friends]

Can someone explain to me how you can know it's a scam if you haven't actually done it yourself? Is it really possible to be able to determine if something is good or bad just by looking at the literature? That doesn't give you a good understanding of what the business is all about. It's only when you participate that you can make that decision. So anyone who hasn't actually done the program, there opinion is useless and should be ignored. It's important to try it yourself and not let others who have no knowledge of wake up now trick you into not making a lot of money. They're just jealous because they don't understand what a great opportunity this is.

[MikeSamps]

Re: Friends

Because you can know 2-3 hard-working, non-slacking individuals personally....spouse...brothers...cousin....close friend....who you know personally...who've invested the $100....and haven't seen a penny.

You can't count the people who you only know or have seen online saying they've made money.

But if you actually know multiple people who have invested and haven't made any money, that says something. They can't all be failures and horrible at network marketing. A couple are college educated....degreed. I've seen their hard-work 1st hand...and no tangible results...other than saving money....which you can do without investing hundreds. It can't be that the only people who have made money are people you don't know personally. It's not rocket science. If it walks like a duck...and talks like a duck....it's not a magical new unicorn...

[William Thatch]

Can someone explain to me how you can know it's a scam if you haven't actually done it yourself? Is it really possible to be able to determine if something is good or bad just by looking at the literature? That doesn't give you a good understanding of what the business is all about. It's only when you participate that you can make that decision. So anyone who hasn't actually done the program, there opinion is useless and should be ignored. It's important to try it yourself and not let others who have no knowledge of wake up now trick you into not making a lot of money. They're just jealous because they don't understand what a great opportunity this is.

orly? check WUN's own IDS where it shows that a vast majority of people who do it don't make a dime. and in fact, i doubt it includes their initial monthly cost(s) so while it says they don't make any money, they likely LOSE money. "is it really possible to determine if something is good or bad just by looking at the literature?"

uhh, yeah, esp. when it tells you exactly what is happening with their business and the associated income distribution...or lack thereof.

i can't believe people still fall for this sort of thing like it's some revolutionary idea hahaha, i mean, it's sad...but also slightly comical. do some people make money? yeah, according to WUN's income disclosure statement that they are required to make available, a MINUTE percentage make some money. but if you have access to one of the few who truly make money (not some guy on facebook who keeps reposting a hub screenshot of some dude way up the chain), they will tell you it's a full time job and they most likely have compromised relationships over the harrassment they issue everyone within ear or keyboard shot. you end up spending more time, hassling MORE people than just taking the time to start your own pyramid "marketing opportunity" or trying time tested and proven entrepreneurial opportunities. become a manufacturer's rep...become a consultant...make real business connections...make a name for youself. don't by into this nonsense. it's been done before and it's always the same story.

[friends]

Both of you have no personal experience so anything you say is worthless. Only those of us who are doing it can truly know the truth. Why do you want to keep people from making more money than they ever dreamed of?

[lorraineb]

Both of you have no personal experience so anything you say is worthless. Only those of us who are doing it can truly know the truth. Why do you want to keep people from making more money than they ever dreamed of?

Seriously? That's the best argument you can make? No showing us a check of "more money than we dream of" since that might actually be some proof? It scares me the people that are actually signing up for this.

[William Thatch]

Seriously? That's the best argument you can make? No showing us a check of "more money than we dream of" since that might actually be some proof? It scares me the people that are actually signing up for this.

they could show a check...and either way there would be no way to know for sure if it was indeed their own or someone up stream from them that keeps flashing their WUN Hub screenshot for everyone under them to use as their own to bait more people to join. they all do it. i know several different "lines" of people from different areas that do the same EXACT thing and readily admit it to me. it's funny too - i know one Founder 4 who openly jokes about the people under him - he knows it's a silly pyramid scheme but he doesn't care because he is making money from those people. the best part is how much time he has to spend placing people. he's literally working full time to do this, and at all hours. meanwhile, he's lost friends and pissed off family members because of the straight up harassment regarding Wakeupnow every five seconds.


regardless...it doesn't matter. don't believe me because that last paragraph is anecdotal evidence. Wakeupnow themselves tell everyone via their IDS that at least 80% of the people who join will not make any money on an annual basis. ZERO MONEY MADE AS PER WUN'S OWN IDS. i have yet to have one person explain to me why their own income disclosure statement should be ignored and how they...out of all the hundreds of thousands of suckers...will somehow be in the slim percentage of people that WUN admit are the only ones who profit from this nonsense.

[Petunia 100]

Seriously? That's the best argument you can make? No showing us a check of "more money than we dream of" since that might actually be some proof? It scares me the people that are actually signing up for this.

Yes, people join MLMs, waste time and money, and damage their personal relationships before they wise up. Sometimes they quit without wising up and join another MLM.

People fall for ridiculous e-mail scams, mailing off money to Nigerian Princes, and to claim their cash prize in a lottery to which they have never bought a single ticket.

People buy crappy insurance products to use as investment vehicles, even though a quick Google search will turn up hundreds of reliable sources stating this is a terrible idea.

People pay ridiculous sums of money to buy software which claims to use a complex algorithm to determine the best time to prepay their mortgage, even though the simple formula p = rt proves mathematically that the best time is always right now.

If you lack common sense, or fail to grasp basic mathematics, there will never be a shortage of schemes to part you from your money. Some people have to learn the hard way, some never do learn.

[David808]

Okay this is just annoying

I started an account on this website because I felt like I had to say something:

1) I looked up WUN because a friend I know had it plastered all over his Facebook, which is exactly why I am naturally hesitant with these sort of networking companies. People LOVE to say how 9-5 jobs are SOOOOOO horrible and time consuming but you know what? A 9-5 doesn't require that I turn my Facebook into an advertisement and my social life into a marketing scheme. Instead my "horrible" "prison cell" jobs have introduced me to hundreds of really cool interesting people that have benefited my life.

2) I felt like I had to say something because the sheer hubris that is used by these people. This is how they work. They all message each other about threads just like this one, then take turns spamming a thread endlessly. PLEASE NOTE that the majority of these posts have no real information to them. The lack facts and instead blame moderators for interfering with their happiness. Guess what? These people are trying to interfere with your happiness by asking for money. None of these moderators are asking for a dime. Strange? These people will not stop and will surely call me out for lying and attacking them.

3) If you have a huge social network, like 2K plus Facebook friends, WUN and companies like it can make you money. Just be careful because before you know it you'll be plugging your company into every social interaction you encounter. I saw it happen with Verve and at least they have a marketable product. Personally I hold my friends as extremely important to me and refuse to treat them like profit possibilities. Now if I have a product I think is worth selling I will. I am my own boss selling a product I import and distribute, and I also work at a restaurant part-time. However I will never try to sell a friend of mine a "program," even if that program is highly plausible. Would I invite a friend to invest in a opportunity to make money, like starting a company yes, and I have. But promising my friend a new future and inviting them to join some iffy "revolution" I will not

ANYWAYS as I said I only wasted my time doing this post because I find the WUN spokes people on this thread infinitely irritating with their bad grammar and lack of class.

Just ask yourself this: if one group of people is vehemently defending their position with logic and asking nothing of you, while one group is monotonously blasting people and begging you to "just try" their idea and then asking you for a monthly payment....who would you trust?

[MikeSamps]

Personal Experience.

Both of you have no personal experience so anything you say is worthless. Only those of us who are doing it can truly know the truth. Why do you want to keep people from making more money than they ever dreamed of?

No personal experience! Ha, unfortunately my spouse was duped into this. Someone I sleep, eat, take care of children, & live with every day was duped, so uh yeah, that's personal experience. I live with her and saw her interactions....as well as the interactions of the WUN "family" (laughable) that she called it. And her brother, my brother in-law also fell prey. Now "I" wasn't personally duped because I have more common sense and real-world experience to fall for these types of scams, but if the person I live with & see on a daily basis was taken advantage of, that's all the personal experience I need. Fortunately some of us can learn from others and not fall prey without having to "learn the hard way".

It's not that we want to keep people from making money. That's a joke. Who does that? Who sits up and sees a company thriving and profiting and decides to attack that company because "hey we don't want those hard-working individuals making money - NO!" It doesn't make sense. We comment on posts like these to try and stop those who are more gullible to end up "losing money". I tried with my wife. Talked to her about it...told her it wasn't wise, but she wouldn't listen. I knew it would only be a matter of time until she saw what I was talking about, so I let her learn the hard way. Because if I would have kept pushing, kept talking the opportunity down, she would have just defended it and then resented me because she didn't get to try...and would have seen it that I blocked her from an amazing opportunity. But instead I let her have her way and lose the $200 ($100 for 2 months) just for a life lesson. I bet you she won't invest any more money into these false-hope scams because she saw 1st hand. And I saw her (while she was between jobs) day in & day out devote 100% of her time into advertising WUN & annoying all her FB friends. She gave it her all, so it was not for lack of trying...listened on the calls, used lead lists...bombarded friends and family...but the bottom line is the product just isn't great. Period. Sure if the product was "amazing"...it could have worked, but it's just not. So there are only so many gullible people in the world who will put money into this, and once all these people have given their money, the MLM will transform into something else. Just give it time and these scam victims will quiet down and unfortunately move on & get tricked into the next big thing. And at least I only have to work 9-5. I don't have to email, spam, & adevertise 22 hours a day just to get word of my prodcut out. That gets old. And the second you stop, any customers you did have...will stop paying their monthly fee to the useless product....hence the business folds...and people lose money. Because as WUN states the only way to make money is to get people under you to sign up...but not only sign up but continue to pay their monthly fee EVERY month. The second those customers in your downline decide they don't want to pay monthly...you better sign another one up, or you not only get no money..but start to lose money.

But just like my wife, you don't have to take it from us, and take the advice given. Invest your hard-earned money and find out the hard-way that this WUN opportunity will simply take your little $100 and keep moving onto the next. I bet you, those of us with these "horrible 9-5 jobs" will still be saying the SAME THING in 5 years....and I can guarantee that all of these WUN "business owners"......WON'T....hahahahaha.

And you'll never get not ONE WUN business owerner, distributer, founder, etc. to address their income disclosure plan admission that over 80% lose money. They will never explain to you how these stats translate into a great business opportunity. They just act like they didn't even see it or hear you....I'll wait...

The only people who make "stacks & stacks" of residual money on a consistent basis are the 1% (as their own income disclosure statement states) that STARTED the WUN MLM. Only the original people who started will make money, because they make money off of all of you. Did you start the MLM? No? Then you too will eventually lose money. The 1% has already been met, so there is no room for the rest because there are not endless amounts of customers who are going to "continue" to pay $100, $24.95, or $19.95 a month. They may do it once or twice or three times...but they WILL NOT continue to do it, once they see the can get grocery coupons and language learning software for free without having to pay monthly. The initial creators of WUN don't have to continue to advertise because all of you do it for them. If you REALLY want to make money from an MLM...you have to be deceitful like they were from the jump are start your own MLM. Then when you put the compensation plan together, you structure it right, and you will make money off of all who sign up. Period. You're welcome

[brawlins]

What is wake up now.

It is completely normal to feel skeptical about the program, but it's actually a legitimate opportunity. If it helps, try to look at it sort of like a money chain. You sign up and pay $100 to become a member. By becoming a member you have access to discounts on just about anything you want to buy. If you are one who uses them or wants to try to save some money, it could definitely benefit you a lot! Just using them a few times a week could save you a couple hundred bucks on your daily expenses. You are also able to download this app call Tax bot. You are a small business owner by being a member, and Tax bot allows you to save thousands of dollars a year on your taxes just by claiming gas expensions (traveling to town or to a club just to meet people and talk to them about wakeupnow.) food expensions, etc. You can receive a discount on your cell phone bill, on vacation packages, it basically helps you save a lot of money on things you do or use everyday. Now, if you find 3 people to sign up for the company then you never have to pay the membership fee again. If those 3 people hire 3 people you could make roughly $600 a month. They will pay you $80 per referral. The chain keeps building as you refer more people as does your payments. They give you a debit card you can use that has all your earnings on it so it's not like you have to wait for a check or a certain time of the month to receive it, it is always available to you. So to make it as simple as possible it's like you are signing up to save tons of money, and refer people to make money. (that would be the work part of the deal) I joined it and I'm pretty happy with it so far! The decision is completely up to you, but I hope I helped explain it better. Good luck!

If you have anymore questions feel free to ask me! You don't have to join my team, but I wouldn't say no if you wanted to lol, I just want to make sure no matter what your decision is, you are completely informed first.