Is Wake Up Now Club a scam?

[jeffrey]

Have a goodnight man, continuing to discuss this with you would just be a waste of time because you are stating false "facts". And btw I know how to read, I wouldn't have an MBA otherwise Have fun bashing companies!

Please do tell, which facts am I saying that are false?

See the problem here is that you have a vested interest in convincing people that this is a good opportunity because you're part of it whereas I don't since I'm not. If it was a great opportunity, I'd have every reason to let the people in this forum know what a great opportunity it is. If I look at it and it looks like a lousy opportunity, then I let them know that as well. There is no hidden agenda on my part because I have nothing to gain or lose with my opinion.

[Baby_nurse]

I love it when new posters join up and their agenda is to push a sales pitch.

[Joan.of.the.Arch]

And the videos from the outfit! Oh-ho-ho! Paper money showering down! A $10,000 bill trapped in a bell jar to represent the "up to $10,000 a month" one can make! Couples dressed in white cavorting and dancing on beautiful beaches by azure oceans!

Convertibles zooming down alpine roads! More couples dressed in white jetting off in small planes to their vacation get-aways! Claiming your 80% discounted mountain top vacation as a business expense on your taxes! Happy-happy friends and couples cozied up around a laptop, laughing, swaying in carefree contentment and excitedly planning their next trip!

Ah, they might make enough money to buy an MBA at a proprietary college like DeVry University. Wouldn't that be grand?

My aplologies for all the exclamation points. They just seemed to be needed to explain the videos this outfit offers.

[houseman]

Long time lurker, but I had to jump in here:

I find it funny in these threads when all the established members advise to stay away wakeupnow while all these new members come in and say what a wonderful deal it is. It seems to me that those who have been around awhile trying to help people with their money issues would be the better group to listen to in this situation, but don't just take their word for it. If you aren't convinced, do some of the research that the members here have done to come to their conclusions. Watch the video on wakeupnow and see if it compares favorably to its financial disclosure. Do some of the leg work so next time you can evaluate it on your own rather than seeking out the opinions of others. That's the best way to be able to spot good opportunities or scams in the future.

[bjl584]

There are countless companies out there like this. Stay away. Odds are you will lose a lot more money than you ever make.

OP, if you are looking for additional income then go get yourself a part time job. Someplace that you can physically go to, do actual tangible work, and get a real paycheck every week. No strange monthly fees, no signing up other members, no arbitrary online presence.

[Bortek02]

A scam it's not...

Lets step away from WakeUpNow for a second...

Avon has been in business since 1887 and it's the number one Direct Selling company in the world. $11.3 billion in net sales in 2011. I guess they are a scam because you said so. The next is Amway and their products are amazing! Better than the stuff in grocery stores. A legit business as well. $10.9 billion in net sales, but in your terms a scam. Oh and they are number two in the world direct selling. Mary Kay, $2.9 billion net sales. Primerica, $1.1 Billion. Ignite, $861 million. And I can keep going.

So a fresh new company starts with the same format of business and you want to bash it. That's fine. Opportunities like WakeUpNow or ones above are not for closed minded individual with all due respect. It takes an inner passion of freedom from the "normal life" to understand what's really happening here. When you are "employed" at any company, the more you make, the more the government takes. How does it make you feel that Uncle Sam is really deep in your pockets after your hard earned work? Check out any of your pay stubs. A 40 hour work week equals approximately $200 in deductions to the federal government! It plain sucks! And with ObamaCare hitting the working man next year, you got something coming to you!

I'm not trying to go down anyones throat about it, but any IBO (independent business owner) can tell you the tax laws change with an advantage to a business owner. I take it you are not one, because of the mentality of "get a paycheck". You are sound ASLEEP my friend. You were taught to make a good living paycheck to paycheck because our parents did the same things and told us to. Even Oprah, a millionaire, says the same thing! The more you make, the more they take and she agrees!

On youtube, Lookup: Rich Dad, Poor Dad Oprah

Think about it, how many people in the US of A is employed by a company? 80 million in 2012. Congratulations, we are the reason the government is spending so damn much because they just have it like that! It's a residual relationship with the tax-payer, but I guess I don't want that money back because it's a scam.

Stayed conditioned to the "American't Dream" my friends or join a revolution of people that are waking up to the truth of what government spending is really doing to our economy. You want out? Give us IBO's a shout. Blessings to you and to yours. :-)

[Baby_nurse]

How cute. Another one. And with the Avon example, no less.

http://pyramidschemealert.org/has-mlm-corrupted-avon/

BTW, I own my own business. Without paying any of my profits to so done above me in a pyramid scheme.

[Bortek02]

LoL! Sprinkle some employees and you'll have yourself a pyramid scheme formatted just like the rest of corporate America. Good luck with your holding cell buddy.

[Anton James]

Ponzi schemes only make the owners rich, beware if they have a 'secret; that will only be shared for your cold hard earned cash.

If they have such a great scheme, why do they want to waste their time trying to get you to part with your money? Thats all you need to ask yourself.

Be careful out there, the waters cold and choppy.

Good luck

[lorraineb]

When you are "employed" at any company, the more you make, the more the government takes. How does it make you feel that Uncle Sam is really deep in your pockets after your hard earned work? Check out any of your pay stubs. A 40 hour work week equals approximately $200 in deductions to the federal government!

Umm, you do realize you have to pay these taxes whether you earn the money on your own or if you work for a company, right? Worst argument ever...

[Bortek02]

Umm, you do realize you have to pay these taxes whether you earn the money on your own or if you work for a company, right? Worst argument ever...

Where did I mention not to pay your taxes? I didn't say don't pay your taxes. You owe taxes, yes pay them! My point I was trying to say...be an IBO for a minimum fee to take advantage of tax deduction rights vs being a non-business owner. Non-business owner are losing money everyday just for not being a business owner and not taking advantage of tax privileges.

Now, if you own a store of some sort, yes it's the same concept with tax advantages but you don't have to be a rocket-scientist to figure out liabilities that come with it. Products get stolen, you need security setup. Even your security setup can get stolen. You'll need proper insurances that also include fire-loss protection if your not already properly covered. Even double check if you are covered at all. You work by yourself so you can reap the profits? Damn...you just created a new job for yourself! Who's going to cover you on the days your ill? A family member or close friend who has little experience with a cash register or computer? That also includes them as being an employee and by law you have to pay them something. It's not just a "favor" anymore. You have to open that store up and close up yourself everyday to make sure everything goes right. Face it, it's a prison cell. Business can get slow. I've had a friend who owned a successful restaurant. He had bought his home, cars, furniture, clothes, etc. with the profit from his business and it went up in smoke just to find out he wasn't covered for fires. Maybe an incoherent employee was to blame...who knows. What do you do now? It was a total loss and did not get a penny! Insurance companies can be sneaky. In the long hual, my friend became a MLM IBO and surpassed the double the profits his old restaurant was giving him. Just my $0.02 but please take it with a grain of salt.

[Baby_nurse]

Actually, you were the one who brought up what an employee pays to Uncle Sam. In order to take the business deductions, you actually have to spend the money ON THE BUSINESS. And those expenses need to be legitimate costs of running the business. Also, while you are self employed, you actually pay more in Self Employment tax than a regular employee pays in their FICA and Medicare because the employer pays 6.2% and 1.45% towards each.

As for losses, any one with two brain cells to rub together knows that business and personal assets are insured separately. No one expects their business insurance to cover the loss of items purchased with the profits of said company for personal use any more than an employee expects their company's insurance to cover them if they lose their own house in a fire.

None of your argument makes any sense. Nor does any of it support why someone should get in to an MLM scheme.

[00000]

Thanks you for all the replies. I didn't realize that my questions was going to start quite the commotion that tit did. I'm not understanding why it seems to be so black vs white in the responses. Why does one group view it as a scam and the other group as a great opportunity? It really can't be both, right?

[bjl584]

Thanks you for all the replies. I didn't realize that my questions was going to start quite the commotion that tit did. I'm not understanding why it seems to be so black vs white in the responses. Why does one group view it as a scam and the other group as a great opportunity? It really can't be both, right?

Look at all of the posters that claim it's a great deal. They have 1 or 2 posts on this forum. They are most likely employees or spokesmen for the company and are trolling the internet looking for opportunities to talk up the company.

Now look at the posters that are telling you to stay away. Most of them have hundreds or thousands of posts here and have been members of the forum for years. Most of them have their finances in order and have a proven strategy to build wealth.

Who would you rather listen to?

[MikePorter]

Simple answer: NO

Wow, I was geting ready to post about WakeUpNow when I saw someone asking about the company.

I personally communicate with leaders within the company on a weekly basis that are making over 30k, 8k, and 5k a month in this business. But that doesn't matter. WakeUpNow is changing lives, even tho i'm only making $600 a month right now from the company ($2500 by August), on top of saving $100-$200 extra from regular spending, it has truly made a way for me to save a ton every month, while making money by sharing with others.

I work 2 jobs which I hate, my brother wants to go to private school for 9th grade, but my mom doesn't have the money. My car is broke down and on its last leg, but when something comes up, for you to change your life financially, when people are making 5k-8k a month, you don't talk...you just listen.

$600 is enough for me to help my brother get in private school. Call it what you want, pyramid, MLM, whatever. I work a 9-5, which is a pyramid. CEO, Manager, all the way down to the employee who works so hard just to get paid $7.50.

Call it what you want, but i'm on my way to financial freedom. You can have that 9-5 life.

Not sure if its okay to share the opportunity on here, but if $600 a month can change your situation right now, i'd like to know.