Have you been impacted by COVID-19 yet?

[rennigade]

I know two traveling nurses who were told to get some sort of ID card so they can travel without restrictions. I guess there has been whispers of making the entire nation stay home, sort of like they did in Italy. Probably just rumorville but they're ready for it just in case.

[disneysteve]

I know two traveling nurses who were told to get some sort of ID card so they can travel without restrictions. I guess there has been whispers of making the entire nation stay home, sort of like they did in Italy. Probably just rumorville but they're ready for it just in case.

A nationwide shut down is what SHOULD have happened but the states have been left to fend for themselves which is a mess. NJ has a shutdown, but PA doesn't, though Philadelphia does, for example. A shutdown doesn't work if only certain people and certain places are doing it. And Florida finally shut their beaches but only after all the spring break idiots were out there and are now all traveling back home carrying COVID 19 to their friends and family. I know 5 spring breakers who were in Florida have already tested positive.

It's Jaws all over again with the local authorities not wanting to shut things down due to the economic impact, ignoring the greater risk of leaving things open and spreading the virus which ultimately will result in a much longer shut down and far greater impact.

[bjl584]

I know two traveling nurses who were told to get some sort of ID card so they can travel without restrictions. I guess there has been whispers of making the entire nation stay home, sort of like they did in Italy. Probably just rumorville but they're ready for it just in case.

That's what needs to happen.
But, our system of government isn't really designed to make that happen in an instant.
This event is unprecedented, and the systems in place were never designed to handle it.
Power has always been left to the states.
The federal government can't simply turn off the country like it's someone flipping a light switch.

[james.hendrickson]

That's what needs to happen.
But, our system of government isn't really designed to make that happen in an instant.
This event is unprecedented, and the systems in place were never designed to handle it.
Power has always been left to the states.
The federal government can't simply turn off the country like it's someone flipping a light switch.

Thats exactly right - the constitution is designed to produce slow deliberative legislation, its not designed for fast action. That said, I don't know what the folks in DC are thinking by slowing down the Coronavirus stimulus funding. People need money NOW, not halfway through April.

[disneysteve]

The federal government can't simply turn off the country like it's someone flipping a light switch.

If the WH would have come out with a clear and firm statement advising a national shutdown and conveying that to every governor in the country, I think it would have happened much faster and more efficiently than what is currently occurring. That national emergency declaration could have included that, along with activating the military in whatever capacity needed to support it.

At this point, it doesn't matter as the damage is done. Only 11 states have shut down so 39 are still out and about spreading disease everywhere they go.

[disneysteve]

My April 22-24 CME program was postponed and will now be held in September.

An awards and fundraising banquet we were scheduled to attend on April 25 is going to be cancelled and rescheduled.

We're still waiting to hear if a June convention that DW and DD are going to in Chicago will be cancelled. We haven't bought airfare yet. Normally I probably would have by now but I'm waiting at this point. The same for my CME in St. Louis in July. Cancelling hotels is easy. Dealing with cancelling air travel is not.

[~bs]

Thats exactly right - the constitution is designed to produce slow deliberative legislation, its not designed for fast action. That said, I don't know what the folks in DC are thinking by slowing down the Coronavirus stimulus funding. People need money NOW, not halfway through April.

They're playing political games. Republicans gave the democrats what they wanted in the initial rounds of stimulus, now the democrats are holding this round of stimulus hostage to modify it as they please. I'm thinking that they feel that a worse situation helps their election bid later this year.

[james.hendrickson]

They're playing political games. Republicans gave the democrats what they wanted in the initial rounds of stimulus, now the democrats are holding this round of stimulus hostage to modify it as they please. I'm thinking that they feel that a worse situation helps their election bid later this year.

That is probably accurate bs, and its rather sad and shameful.

[QuarterMillionMan]

March 22 thru March 25 was supposed to be my Las Vegas road trip. Today I would have been sitting at a slot machine with a Heineken light in one hand and pushing the buttons with the other hand. Dining at the buffets having an omelette with bacon, ham, oatmeal, coffee, etc. My mind is still warped that all of Las Vegas is closed but it has to be done to contain this pandemic.

[disneysteve]

They're playing political games. Republicans gave the democrats what they wanted in the initial rounds of stimulus, now the democrats are holding this round of stimulus hostage to modify it as they please. I'm thinking that they feel that a worse situation helps their election bid later this year.

There needs to be a stimulus package and it needs to reasonably benefit both individuals and businesses. It can't be heavily tilted one way or the other. Not to get overly political, but the Republicans typically focus more on businesses and the Democrats typically focus more on individuals, so they're approaching the problem from different points of view. They need to arrive at a compromise that both sides are okay with, which so far hasn't been the case.

[james.hendrickson]

Honestly guys, Monday is feeling a little like business as usual. Politicians not agreeing with each other, people on Facebook irrationally supporting one side and everyone asking about how make money from the crisis.

[SavingBucks]

Unfortunately for us, we are 90% certain we have to travel to Idaho to the college for my daughter's items. The school said to work with the sorority, and the sorority says to get the stuff out ASAP and to work with the housemother since we are a 20 hr drive away. This is totally ridiculous! She is transitioning from sorority to apartment on campus so she is considered to be in limbo. We would prefer to travel in about 4 weeks or so since she has enough books, etc. for that time frame. We can be socially distant from others in the vehicle, and will have to be careful at gas stations and rest stops. But we are equipped with gloves and disinfecting wipes and soap and sanitizer. We plan to bring own food and drink as well. Sleeping bags, too. The sorority should only have the housemother at the building (only occupant in the last 10 days).

Does anyone think that this can get so bad in the next week or so that state borders would be closed? We definitely do not want to be stuck out of state. Do you think we are crazy?

[cypher1]

Does anyone think that this can get so bad in the next week or so that state borders would be closed? We definitely do not want to be stuck out of state. Do you think we are crazy?

Hopefully it doesn't get to that point for state borders closing. And no, I don't think you're crazy for that option of a moving trip. However, I just found out a buddy and his family of 4 decided to continue with their road trip from MN to AR for some mountain biking excursion. That decision, to me, is crazy.

How much stuff does your daughter have to move? Given the health risks, time for travel/move, and stress, would it make more sense to just replace the majority of items at a later date? More extreme and expensive, but just an idea. Or does she have friends over there that could grab her bare essentials?

[kork13]

Does anyone think that this can get so bad in the next week or so that state borders would be closed? We definitely do not want to be stuck out of state. Do you think we are crazy?

Closing of state borders would be truly unprecedented, and literally requires an act of Congress (and then some) -- freedom of movement between states has been repeatedly held as an imputed constitutional right. I'm very confident in saying that you're definitely crazy to fear closed state borders. Even when movement has been restricted for public health, people have not been prevented from returning to their homes.

[disneysteve]

Does anyone think that this can get so bad in the next week or so that state borders would be closed?

I was wondering that, too. If the Fed would issue a nationwide shelter-in-place order, no. But if it continues to be a patchwork of restrictions from city to city and state to state, I could see that happening. What good is my state issuing a s-i-p order if the bordering states don't have one and people are still coming and going freely? We need to shut EVERYTHING down. Station guardsmen at the bridges and crossing points checking IDs.

ETA: You would still need to be able to return home, hence the ID checking. If you work out of state, for example.