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  • We had the first possible exposure at one of our sites yesterday (I think it's the first) and the patient didn't honestly answer the screening questions until they were in the room. So now several staff members are on quarantine until the test comes back.

    This is exactly the danger. If each time there is a potential exposure or confirmed case they quarantine all contacts for 14 days, the healthcare system will rapidly be overwhelmed and run out of providers and staff. That's a scary prospect.
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    • Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
      This is exactly the danger. If each time there is a potential exposure or confirmed case they quarantine all contacts for 14 days, the healthcare system will rapidly be overwhelmed and run out of providers and staff. That's a scary prospect.
      Would you not be taking all reasonable precautions against infection for the staff at all times, regardless of what patients are/are not presenting with? Besides, if there's one thing I learned from watching all 8 seasons House, it's that "Everybody Lies."

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      • Originally posted by kork13 View Post
        Would you not be taking all reasonable precautions against infection for the staff at all times, regardless of what patients are/are not presenting with?
        No. That isn't practical or feasible. The entire staff can't spend the whole day in full Personal Protective Equipment (PPE). If for no other reason, there simply isn't that much PPE to go around. That would mean the front desk staff checking in patients would be wearing gloves, gown, mask, and face shield all day, and so would everyone else working there. It wouldn't matter if a patient came in for respiratory symptoms or a splinter in their finger.
        Steve

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        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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        • Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
          We had the first possible exposure at one of our sites yesterday (I think it's the first) and the patient didn't honestly answer the screening questions until they were in the room. So now several staff members are on quarantine until the test comes back.

          This is exactly the danger. If each time there is a potential exposure or confirmed case they quarantine all contacts for 14 days, the healthcare system will rapidly be overwhelmed and run out of providers and staff. That's a scary prospect.
          It's sad to say, but people being selfish can absolutely ruin any precautions that people are taking. Just like the New York to Florida jetblue guy. If you KNOW you have the virus, why would you still go ahead and travel?

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          • Originally posted by disneysteve View Post

            No. That isn't practical or feasible. The entire staff can't spend the whole day in full Personal Protective Equipment (PPE). If for no other reason, there simply isn't that much PPE to go around. That would mean the front desk staff checking in patients would be wearing gloves, gown, mask, and face shield all day, and so would everyone else working there. It wouldn't matter if a patient came in for respiratory symptoms or a splinter in their finger.
            Exactly. What one of our hospital facilities is doing is setting up outdoors tents to check people in, find out what they're sickness is, and take temperature at the same time. Good ventilation and limited exposure to staff if they are suspected of corona

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            • Governor Gavin Newsome of California directed bars & restaurants to close (take out okay). 65 and older advised to home isolate. Las Vegas Wynne/Encore & MGM (
              MGM Resorts includes Bellagio, CityCenter, Excalibur, Luxor, Mandalay Bay, MGM Grand, The Mirage, New York-New York, Park MGM and T-Mobile Arena)
              to close on March 17.

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              • MGM memo.
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                • Wynn memo.
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                  • Pechanga in So Cal.
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                    • Newsome also advised not to attend movie theaters which is consider a "Non-essential" activity. Yesterday the theaters said they would allow 50% capacity, today it looks like 100% closed. Rapidly moving chain of events.

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                      • Social distancing before the closures.
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                        • Well, I'm absolutely bewildered and concerned that the Fed dropped interest rates on a Sunday and we're going the way of quantitative easing as if this is a credit crisis. I guess when nobody knows what to do, start playing with the big levers, right? Because when things really start to slide, that's when we start seeing negative interest rates. Japan has a long story to tell about that.


                          History will judge the complicit.

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                          • Originally posted by ua_guy View Post
                            Well, I'm absolutely bewildered and concerned that the Fed dropped interest rates on a Sunday and we're going the way of quantitative easing as if this is a credit crisis. I guess when nobody knows what to do, start playing with the big levers, right? Because when things really start to slide, that's when we start seeing negative interest rates. Japan has a long story to tell about that.

                            Yeah, that was kinda my thought as well. Why take such a drastic step as an emergency measure? You're only going to look desperate & scared, which isn't going to help the situation. People are all reacting on a fear basis right now. Our public institutions need to act as stabilizing forces, reassuring the public & responding appropriately to come the chaos. Lacking that, it'll only get worse before it gets better. I still don't understand why they're trying to treat this as an economic crisis. Sure, there will be economic effects, but this is a crisis of health & public confidence & fear. Address those things! The rest will fall in line.

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                            • They should have done it at their next scheduled meeting, which is wednesday I believe.

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                              • I have a friend who works at disney. Not sure how the program is set up, if they're temp workers or something. Disney pays for their housing while also paying a salary. This dude is an electrician. Couple days ago, they gave everyone (10,000) of these workers 2 days notice to pack their things and take a hike. They were all laid off. Apparently, they are still going to pay them their contracts out, which was nice. This was worldwide I believe, not just the US...or wherever disney has parks.

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