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  • #31
    Originally posted by pflyers85 View Post
    I strongly disagree. There is definitely a media double standard when it comes to handling controversies by Democrats and those by Republicans. If a Democrat does wrong they will quickly drop it if the person apologizes and/or resigns. When a Republican is in their crosshairs even if they admit guilt and step aside then the questions of "Who else knew?" "How long did they know?" "Was their a cover up?" The media will separate the individuals wrongdoing from the Democratic party but with Republicans they will spin it that the larger issue is with the entire Republican party.
    Uh really? Because we have been hearing about Benghazi and the email scandal for like 3-4 years now. I don't see a lot of sweeping this under the rug.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Singuy View Post
      I had no idea that 19% of Trump supporters want to bring back slavery(real poll, look it up) and 59% of them thinks Obama is a muslim, not born in the U.S. It's their intolerance for anyone but white men that gets to us..not the whole "oh they will pay for my loans, and my retirement, my health care, and my welfare checks".


      Honestly, I am not even going to waste my time looking the poll up. You sample the right people and you get can a poll to say whatever you want it to.

      I know many people that plan to vote for Trump and it is highly unlikely any of them think that way.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Singuy View Post
        Uh really? Because we have been hearing about Benghazi and the email scandal for like 3-4 years now. I don't see a lot of sweeping this under the rug.
        Oh the Democrats have had their brooms out, but of course criminal acts by a Presidential candidate is not going to go away in an election year.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by DaveInPgh View Post
          Needy Latinos?
          I have read two articles on this. Still trying to find the context because the body of this email did not talk about Latinos as a whole, their behaviors or anything. I'm not even sure why it's titled as such..perhaps referring to one particular person as needy and he just happens to be Latino? Also Clinton did not write this email so I don't know why she needs to apologize for it.

          So wake me up when you find an email written by Hillary about how Latinos are rapists...

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          • #35
            Lovely tweet by Podesta

            I bet the lobster risotto is better than the food at the Ecuadorian Embassy. pic.twitter.com/zyViu1R4UL

            — John Podesta (@johnpodesta) October 14, 2016

            An example of the arrogance in Clinton's camp. Poke fun at the WikiLeaks co-founder while he is releasing your e-mails.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Singuy View Post
              I have read two articles on this. Still trying to find the context because the body of this email did not talk about Latinos as a whole, their behaviors or anything. I'm not even sure why it's titled as such..perhaps referring to one particular person as needy and he just happens to be Latino? Also Clinton did not write this email so I don't know why she needs to apologize for it.

              So wake me up when you find an email written by Hillary about how Latinos are rapists...
              Well it was plural, so I am assuming they know singular vs plural.

              And if I were Latino, I would want an explanation from Clinton as to the terminology used by HER Campaign Chair

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DaveInPgh View Post



                I know many people that plan to vote for Trump and it is highly unlikely any of them think that way.
                Hey I too know some Trump supporters who doesn't want to bring back slavery cause you know..only 20% of them wants to..and perhaps most of them live in the boonies of South Carolina...but that doesn't make it untrue. I can give you more anecdote evidence by saying my Dad voted for trump and he is definitely racist..and he's Chinese. This is the first time he ever voted republican because Trump is just that racists. He only cares about one issue, getting rid of muslims (and for some reason, Mexicans..even though he loves Mexican workers so...)
                Last edited by Singuy; 10-14-2016, 12:04 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by pflyers85 View Post
                  I'm an older millennial myself. I don't know if I agree with you regarding a Republican in office for a couple decades. The upper end of millennials are starting families now and many are settling in careers and making upward moves as more boomers retire. The whole young bleeding heart liberal stage is going to fade. When you are younger, single, and work a lower paying entry level job a lot of Democrat policies sound appealing.

                  I think the dynamic that is really helping Democrats now is the fact that most boomers have no retirement plan or it is very poorly funded. They are extremely reliant on government. Then you have millennials deep in college debt. They are reliant on government. Millennials are pretty aware that retirement is something they are going to have to prepare for on their own. I think that will actually help them as they mature into being less reliant on government as they see government as something that cannot deliver on its promises.
                  Another factor is that many non-religious former-Republicans (such as myself) no longer feel that the Republican Party represents them. Somehow, the fringe religious right have taken over. They want their religious views to be legislated, and that simply does not sit well.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Singuy View Post
                    I think Millennials and young voters have a hard time standing behind the republican party NOT because we want handouts, but it's because there's a strong base of the Republican party (~20%) that is racist. We kind of felt it before, but now with Trump giving these people a microphone, the dam has been broken.

                    I had no idea that 19% of Trump supporters want to bring back slavery(real poll, look it up) and 59% of them thinks Obama is a muslim, not born in the U.S. It's their intolerance for anyone but white men that gets to us..not the whole "oh they will pay for my loans, and my retirement, my health care, and my welfare checks".
                    Yesterday I read where some guy blathered on via Twitter about repealing the 19th amendment. It boggles the mind.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Singuy View Post
                      Hey I too know some Trump supporters who doesn't want to bring back slavery cause you know..only 20% of them wants to..and perhaps most of them live in the boonies of South Carolina...but that doesn't make it true. I can give you more anecdote evidence by saying my Dad voted for trump and he is definitely racist..and he's Chinese. This is the first time he ever voted republican because Trump is just that racists. He only cares about one issue, getting rid of muslims (and for some reason, Mexicans..even though he loves Mexican workers so...)
                      20% of how many polled? 10? 20? 100,000?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Singuy View Post
                        So wake me up when you find an email written by Hillary about how Latinos are rapists...
                        Enjoy your nap. I am heading home for the day.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by DaveInPgh View Post
                          20% of how many polled? 10? 20? 100,000?
                          This is how scientific polling works.

                          They will poll 1000-1500 people from different districts and at a semi random fashion. When done correctly, 1000 people polled represents 97% of the likely voters of the entire U.S population(3% chance of error). To get this error down to 1% requires 10,000 people polled. So if the polling was done scientifically, 1000-1500 is all you need to pretty much represent the entire U.S population.

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                          • #43
                            How do we Millennial and young voters think?

                            This video pretty much explains why we can't stand behind the republican party this year.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Petunia 100 View Post
                              Another factor is that many non-religious former-Republicans (such as myself) no longer feel that the Republican Party represents them. Somehow, the fringe religious right have taken over. They want their religious views to be legislated, and that simply does not sit well.
                              I can understand that. Personally as a straight white male I don't really put much stock in a politicians position on abortion or gay marriage. I have my personal belief in both neither really impact my life. The issues that do, 2nd amendment (gun owner), taxes, government size and spending, etc I tend to be more in line with Republicans than I do Democrats.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by pflyers85 View Post
                                Personally as a straight white male I don't really put much stock in a politicians position on abortion or gay marriage.
                                I'm also a straight white male and I think both of those issues are critically important. I definitely keep a candidate's position on those issues in mind when voting.
                                Steve

                                * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                                * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                                * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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