2016 Presidential Election

[DaveInPgh]

Wikileaks is also helping greatly.

How? By releasing documents hacked and manipulated by the Russians?

In fairness to Trump and pretty much any Republican accused and/or proven of wrongdoing, if he had simply apologized and say he changed the media would not stop pressing him and would then accuse him of ducking the question. When a liberal Democrat is in the same position and does what you say they will take them at their word and then spin it in a positive way that weren't ducking they are just trying to stick to the issues.

Great point

[DaveInPgh]

So enough of the drama, we should have an educated discussion on their policies. What are your thoughts and what do you support?

Perhaps no one really knows their policies since everything on the news and the debate are about the following:

Sexual Abuse
Bill Clinton
Racism toward Mexicans/Muslims
ISIS
Emails.

None of those things are about policies per se..perhaps the one that deals with ISIS..

I agree with you that the issues are what is most important, but this wasn't your first post in this thread. It was about Trump's poor attempt of an apology (which I agree with you on).

But your post didn't include Clinton and the Democrats dodging the Email scandal. Why isn't Clinton apologizing? Because she would have to admit that the emails are indeed legit and she is a phony.

[DaveInPgh]

I havent met one single person that likes either candidates. No one has said...Hillary is the better candidate...or Trump is the better candidate. Ive heard a lot of responses like "I hate Hillary but shes better than Trump." There isnt anything positive about either one.

I don't talk politics with anyone offline often, but I also haven't encountered anyone that likes either candidate. And honestly, I would lose any respect for anyone that said they did.

[rennigade]

When a liberal Democrat is in the same position and does what you say they will take them at their word and then spin it in a positive way that weren't ducking they are just trying to stick to the issues.

Almost all the news/media/tv reporters are liberal. Big advantage for the dems.

If trump doesnt win...which I doubt he will...you wont have to worry about a republican in office for a couple decades. My generation the millennials now outnumber the baby boomers..and the numbers are only going up. Most of that group are liberals.

[DaveInPgh]

Another sexual assault allegation is being reported. Having multiple rape victims among close relatives, I am rarely quick to dismiss a woman's claim of being violated. However, this story isn't adding up for me.

The story states that "over the years... has recounted the story to people she knew." Despite sharing the story on numerous occasions, she couldn't recall what friends (who she has since lost touch with) she was with or which club it was at. Her current friends that she has told the story to are able to collaborate that she told them the story, but of course without remembering who she was with at the time of the incident (1990s), there is no collaboration from anyone present.

Based on his own statements, it wouldn't shock me if this story were true. However, it just seems odd that she forgot some very important details regarding an incident she shared with several people over the years. I understand suppressing a memory of something bad, but seems odd to do so when you have repeatedly shared the story.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/woman-says-trump-reached-under-her-skirt-and-groped-her-in-early-1990s/ar-AAiXxPB?li=BBnb7Kz

[Singuy]

I agree with you that the issues are what is most important, but this wasn't your first post in this thread. It was about Trump's poor attempt of an apology (which I agree with you on).

But your post didn't include Clinton and the Democrats dodging the Email scandal. Why isn't Clinton apologizing? Because she would have to admit that the emails are indeed legit and she is a phony.

Clinton apologized twice, once during each debate about the email scandal. She said she'll not make excuses for them, she was wrong, and would do it differently if time were to turn back.

If Trump were to use the exact same words about his tape scandal, no women will come out accusing him and this story would of been shot.

[DaveInPgh]

Clinton apologized twice, once during each debate about the email scandal. She said she'll not make excuses for them, she was wrong, and would do it differently if time were to turn back.

If Trump were to use the exact same words about his tape scandal, no women will come out accusing him and this story would of been shot.

I am not referring to the personal email, I am referring to all of the specific things that is being leaked. She certainly isn't addressing all of the specific issues that are coming out.

I think you are right that some of the women would not be coming forward, but not sure if they all would have remained quiet.

[Petunia 100]

Got the say, thanks to the reality show drama of the current election, it sure got my wife interested..lol.

I don't understand why Trump couldn't just say "I'm sorry, people in power shouldn't do or say such a thing, I have done some things I was not proud of in the past, but now I've changed". Instead of opening the floodgate with him down playing the situation. His answer during the debate is pretty much the worst possible response. You know what females heard? "Stop being so sensitive about how I treat women, you guys don't understand that there's more important things at hand like ISIS, so get back into the kitchen and let us men take care of real business".

I wonder if he ever had a fight with a female. The thing they hate the most is when you down play something they whole heartily care about. Perhaps he never got that far and just divorce them when they get too rowdy.

Because he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He is never wrong. He is better than everyone, so the rules don't apply to him.

[DaveInPgh]

Headline: Trump Jr.: Women Who 'Can't Handle' Harassment Should Teach Kindergarten

Story: Trump Jr. then said, "I’m of that mindset — and I’ll get into trouble, I’m sure — I’ve been on this show enough, I’m sure I’ll get myself in trouble one of these days — but like, if you can’t handle some of the basic stuff that’s become a problem in the workforce today, like you don’t belong in the workforce. Like, you should go maybe teach kindergarten. I think it’s a respectable position."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-jr-women-who-cant-handle-harassment-should-teach-kindergarten/ar-AAiX2jo?li=BBnbfcL

[Singuy]

I am not referring to the personal email, I am referring to all of the specific things that is being leaked. She certainly isn't addressing all of the specific issues that are coming out.

I think you are right that some of the women would not be coming forward, but not sure if they all would have remained quiet.

I am looking at Foxnews.com to see what wikileaks need apologizing for...

Flipflopping on TPP?
Having a public and private face?

So far I have yet to see something that is a direct insult to a group of people (but who knows, maybe I'll find something and if people press her for it..lets see if she apologizes for them)..She did apologize about grouping people into a basket of deplorable under 24hs.


Everything else looks to me as a style of governing..I don't think she should apologize for flip flopping or lacks transparency..that's just how the political game is played and frankly a style of governing...not personal insults.

I don't see Trump needing to apologize for his numerous flipflops and flat out lies. If he need to say whatever it takes to secure his base..go at it hoss. But he definitely should apologize for sexually assaulting women or attacking the Khan family cause wtf is his problem. He needs to stick to his message and stop with the personal attacks.

[pflyers85]

Almost all the news/media/tv reporters are liberal. Big advantage for the dems.

If trump doesnt win...which I doubt he will...you wont have to worry about a republican in office for a couple decades. My generation the millennials now outnumber the baby boomers..and the numbers are only going up. Most of that group are liberals.

I'm an older millennial myself. I don't know if I agree with you regarding a Republican in office for a couple decades. The upper end of millennials are starting families now and many are settling in careers and making upward moves as more boomers retire. The whole young bleeding heart liberal stage is going to fade. When you are younger, single, and work a lower paying entry level job a lot of Democrat policies sound appealing.

I think the dynamic that is really helping Democrats now is the fact that most boomers have no retirement plan or it is very poorly funded. They are extremely reliant on government. Then you have millennials deep in college debt. They are reliant on government. Millennials are pretty aware that retirement is something they are going to have to prepare for on their own. I think that will actually help them as they mature into being less reliant on government as they see government as something that cannot deliver on its promises.

[rennigade]

Ah good ol politics and religion. Two topics that bring out the best in grown ups.

[pflyers85]

Clinton apologized twice, once during each debate about the email scandal. She said she'll not make excuses for them, she was wrong, and would do it differently if time were to turn back.

If Trump were to use the exact same words about his tape scandal, no women will come out accusing him and this story would of been shot.

I strongly disagree. There is definitely a media double standard when it comes to handling controversies by Democrats and those by Republicans. If a Democrat does wrong they will quickly drop it if the person apologizes and/or resigns. When a Republican is in their crosshairs even if they admit guilt and step aside then the questions of "Who else knew?" "How long did they know?" "Was their a cover up?" The media will separate the individuals wrongdoing from the Democratic party but with Republicans they will spin it that the larger issue is with the entire Republican party.

[Singuy]

I think the dynamic that is really helping Democrats now is the fact that most boomers have no retirement plan or it is very poorly funded. They are extremely reliant on government. Then you have millennials deep in college debt. They are reliant on government. Millennials are pretty aware that retirement is something they are going to have to prepare for on their own. I think that will actually help them as they mature into being less reliant on government as they see government as something that cannot deliver on its promises.

I think Millennials and young voters have a hard time standing behind the republican party NOT because we want handouts, but it's because there's a strong base of the Republican party (~20%) that is racist. We kind of felt it before, but now with Trump giving these people a microphone, the dam has been broken.

I had no idea that 19% of Trump supporters want to bring back slavery(real poll, look it up) and 59% of them thinks Obama is a muslim, not born in the U.S. It's their intolerance for anyone but white men that gets to us..not the whole "oh they will pay for my loans, and my retirement, my health care, and my welfare checks".

[DaveInPgh]

So far I have yet to see something that is a direct insult to a group of people

Needy Latinos?