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  • #91
    Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

    I use the phrase, we can't afford it, quite often. This is for things like dining out too frequently, or buying a "want" when it wasn't budgeted.


    laughing...the neighbors figure that we are broke because my husband, who retired from the fire department at age 50, will take odd jobs around the neighborhood. (He is now 53 with the old type of government pension that will continue until we die.)
    The extra money he makes, goes on making extra payments on our bills or for buying hay for his buffalo. (We have a small herd of two cows and one bull.)

    My daughter just graduated from college on June 10th. She moved back home on June 11th and started work on June 12th. The neighbors found out that she will also be available to house sit at night after her daytime job. She let them know that she would be glad to earn the extra money. She needs to buy herself a car as fast as she can.

    My son has two more years in college. He is spending part of his summer on campus because he has a job as a research assistant in the geology department for a research professor. When he comes home, he is glad to take on odd jobs of house sitting or feeding the neighbors' livestock. (He also helps the elderly neighbors free of charge when they run into a problem like needing someone to stack wood.)

    It is pretty nice for people to believe that we don't have any money and are having a difficult time of it. They don't need to know how we stand financially.
    We don't loan, or co-sign for anyone. (That is one of our boundaries.) We will go out and buy groceries if they are having a difficult time of it or share what we have onhand since I keep a good stock of groceries.

    Truthfully, all of us like doing things this way. My kids hate to ask me to buy anything for them, even though I never hold it against them. (They feel that we help them enough and they should be able to take care of theirselves.)
    While they were away at college, I would have to demand that they let me give them some money when I could tell that they were pretty much down to their last dollar (usually at the end of the quarter).
    I don't know what happened. I wasn't like them when I was their age.

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    • #92
      Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

      Originally Posted by DebtManWalking

      We have friends that are in debt up to the eyeballs, big house, BMW's and the white picket fence. The inside of the house is barely furnished because to them the outside appearance is far more important than the inside.

      lol... my husband makes jokes about our future home... he said we should make the inside really nice and make it as dinky as possible outside.... i laughed but not i'm reconsidering the benfits .... only people who really want to see us would venture inside and be pleasantly surprised... lol...

      Posted by flash...
      Same here...isn't it odd, people think that they can AFFORD something just because they can cover the cost, on the short term. We do use it, that's just it, we USE it, to work for us and keep us financially secure. Spending isn't the same as using! Thanks for the post!

      lol... we get the same thing from people... i believe that security needs to be built first and then you can enjoy your rewards without the worry...

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      • #93
        Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

        I go to lots of parties with the same 10-15 couples all the time. Not a single one of them is into budgeting and saving. Heck the last couple of parties have cost over $5000 each!

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        • #94
          Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

          Originally posted by Ima saver
          I go to lots of parties with the same 10-15 couples all the time. Not a single one of them is into budgeting and saving. Heck the last couple of parties have cost over $5000 each!
          It's great to see how others live. Sometimes we change and other times we become more set in our ways as we see how we prefer our way of living.

          I have a question. When you are with this group of people do you feel you need to spend to keep up with them or do you feel comfortable with your usua spending habits?

          Enjoy Your Money
          The Budget Man


          When you want a budget to set you free

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          • #95
            Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

            Only 5% of the people in the world are willing to do what it takes to succeed. .......Dennis Kimbro

            Tightwads are a small elite group.......Amy Dacyczyn

            My new motto for complainers in debt and potential borrowers, etc.,

            "If you manage your money you will always have money to manage, if you spend your money you won't always have money to spend."

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            • #96
              Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

              No budget man, I feel no need to spend like they do. I even talk to them about things like turning off their hot water heater during the day. They think I am crazy. When we have a party, we cook burgers on the grill, not catered food like they do. They hire women to serve and clean up during the party and a d.j. to play music!

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              • #97
                Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                Originally posted by Ima saver
                No budget man, I feel no need to spend like they do. I even talk to them about things like turning off their hot water heater during the day. They think I am crazy. When we have a party, we cook burgers on the grill, not catered food like they do. They hire women to serve and clean up during the party and a d.j. to play music!

                I'm with you on this one. The interesting thing we find is that when we act as we normally do some of our new friends feel so much more relaxed that they don't have to put on a show all the time.

                We've several friends who now cater in exactly the way you mention and they are under so much less pressure on their finances.

                Enjoy Your Money
                The Budget Man


                A budget that works

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                • #98
                  Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                  Dh's family always thought we were poor because we didn't spend money to live in the moment. Were they ever surprised when he quit his full time job to work part time...I feel like we got the last laugh.

                  A few years ago I babysat my friend's children a few days a week for 10 months and saved all the money I made in a separate account so we could go to Disneyland. One sil told another who told another who told me that my Dad had paid for our trip! That was shocking to me. We don't talk about our finances to Dh's family, but apparently they're quite interested in our financial affairs!

                  I do have one very close friend who is as frugal as us. We understand eachother completely. It is very nice having an ally to chat with! Of course, being here helps immensely as well!

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                  • #99
                    Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                    Originally posted by Duchesse

                    My new motto for complainers in debt and potential borrowers, etc.,

                    "If you manage your money you will always have money to manage, if you spend your money you won't always have money to spend."
                    i might have to borrow it although maybe only to repeat for mental fortification and maybe to share with any future fellow frugal friends...

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                    • Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                      We are a rarity among many of our friends. We save money, we buy a few nice things, but we research them first to get something that lasts. We live in a smaller house than what the bank says we should have bought! I coupon, look for sales, and use leftovers. I enjoy eating out, but prefer to eat at home most of the time because of the cost and the fact I can control what kind of food is being used. (We do eat out twice a week -- one nice restaurant and Steak and Shake for Sunday supper). When we received a small inheritance we used the money to pay off our house and invested the remainder. We have made home improvements to enhance the value of our home. Yet, I don't feel we play the game of how much can we spend? I like my life the way it is and buying more stuff wouldn't make me any happier. I grew up having little money so I'm not swayed by folks wanting us to spend to keep up with them. Oh, did I mention I can be a little stubborn and stongwilled?

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                      • Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                        I really wish I had friends who were on the same page as I am, when it comes to spending and saving money. It is so good to have you "guys" to talk to.

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                        • Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                          i really wish i had friends like you guys who lived nearby that i could hang out with... that way we wouldn't get so much flack for not spending like everybody else...

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                          • Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                            Originally posted by Ima saver
                            I am very open, I don't mind discussing my finances with any one. I have one girl friend that I have tried to council to save her money for over 30 years. She has never listened to me. If I say, I can't afford it, she will say, Oh yes you can, you have plenty of money. I guess I should say, I can afford it but I don't chose to spend my money on this. (Maybe the reason I have plenty of money is because I haven't wasted all of it on stuff I really don't need)
                            You've chosen not to spend money on her, and that's what she twigging on. Friends go in debt together to prove their friendship...didn't you get the memo?

                            I think you all have hit on the basic insecurity of your circles. People all spending money on things because advertisers or their other friends have subtlely (sic) told them that they have to have to be with it or else they will be thrown into the pit of the uncool.

                            I say we all use lrjohnson strategy - do what you do and to heck with it. If someone asks, tell them or show them what you do. If they don't listen, save your breath.

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                            • Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                              I am a saver, my husband is a spender! Figures, huh? We have only been married 5 years. I am the laugh of the "neighborhood"- cheap so and so, so tight she squeeks, won't let him buy ANYTHING!!. Do you know what? I could care less. I retired at 51 with no company retirement plan only the money I put aside. I married 2 or 3 years after that. I do not touch "my money"- it is in the bank making money- we live on his income only. Some of our friends are retired military, both work, and still have financial issues!! We have one income $60,000 which includes the overtime and we do just fine. In fact we just came back from three weeks in Italy and Belgium. We are planning China in 2008. I make every buck work for us. We eat out once a month. We NEVER buy fast food of any sort. My husband takes lunch. We think the house will be paid off by the time my husband retires in 6 years and we have no debt except for a 2004 van we are still paying ourselves. Do I care that others spend unwisely? Hell no. Do I lend money? Hell no. lynclarke

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                              • Re: The problem with being budget minded is other people.

                                We have no company retirement plan either, it will just be our savings that we will live on when my dh decides to retire. I have given up on my friends. They will just have to work until they hit 85 or older, they have no retirement funds put aside at all. I guess they think they can live on social security.
                                I am only going to get about $400 a month. that is tough to live on!!

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