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  • Maturing CDs

    Sharing a quick summary of an article from the WSJ -

    Americans have poured more than $2T into CDs to lock in higher rates since the Fed began raising rates in 2022. When CDs mature, roughly half of them are automatically rolled into new bank-issued CDs and locked up again (according to data and consulting firm Curinos).

    When the account is maturing, the bank is required to notify customers. If the CD will automatically roll into a new one, the bank must disclose in writing the date a new interest rate will be determined. But under current regulations, they don’t need to contact customers to tell them the new rate, only provide them with a phone number to call to get the information.

    The article cites a few examples of customer's money being auto-rolled (and thus locked up after a 7-14 day grace period) in CDs that barely yield anything (e.g., going from a 4% CD to an auto-enrolled 0.05% CD).

    I'd quickly cease doing business with any bank that attempted this "financial malpractice". I gather the moral of the story is that the best (and perhaps only) person that will absolutely look out for your financial best interests is you.
    “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it … he who doesn’t … pays it.”

  • #2
    I always set bank CDs to not automatically renew for just this reason. Now all of our CDs are brokered so it’s not an issue but for regular bank CDs I always handled them manually.
    Steve

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    • #3
      Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
      I always set bank CDs to not automatically renew for just this reason. Now all of our CDs are brokered so it’s not an issue but for regular bank CDs I always handled them manually.
      Not auto-renewing certainly seems prudent. It's crazy to me that a bank would or could auto enroll their customers in CDs that are well below market rate.

      Reinforces my thinking to stay away from "big banks" and stick with a local credit union.
      “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it … he who doesn’t … pays it.”

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      • #4
        I just received my required notice in the mail from my credit union for a CD that's getting ready to mature. This one will be rolled over automatically, but it gets the then-current CD rate, which is still pretty good right now.

        Now, the CD's I have in my IRA through various institutions....I'm going to go check on those!
        History will judge the complicit.

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        • #5
          Must be the benefit of having a credit union where there aren’t games to be played. They list the cd rates and terms online so I can see them in advance.

          at maturity for the CDs I can send the money to the savings account, auto renew for the same term (e.g. 12 months at the newest rate) or switch to a different term (e.g. 9 months)

          I check the rates a few days before auto renewal to decide what to do. I can change that selection online so it’s easy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jluke View Post
            Must be the benefit of having a credit union where there aren’t games to be played. They list the cd rates and terms online so I can see them in advance.

            at maturity for the CDs I can send the money to the savings account, auto renew for the same term (e.g. 12 months at the newest rate) or switch to a different term (e.g. 9 months)

            I check the rates a few days before auto renewal to decide what to do. I can change that selection online so it’s easy.
            Ally is the same way. If it rolls over automatically it is to whatever the current rate is. I just like making the decision myself.
            Steve

            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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            • #7
              I've owned CDs for at least 35 years. I can't recall a single time I let a CD automatically renew. Every time I either took the cash which had been put away for a specific purpose (house or car purchase) or shopped around and found a better rate. I have kept CDs at the same institution, just with a different term.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by scfr View Post
                I've owned CDs for at least 35 years. I can't recall a single time I let a CD automatically renew. Every time I either took the cash which had been put away for a specific purpose (house or car purchase) or shopped around and found a better rate. I have kept CDs at the same institution, just with a different term.
                I used to do much the same until I discovered brokered CDs. Now instead of shopping around at different institutions and having to move money around, I just keep the money at Vanguard, buy either CDs or Treasuries depending on which has the better rate for the desired term, and when they mature, the money goes into the settlement fund for me to reinvest (or withdraw) at the time as I see fit. I love the simplicity of having it all at one place but being able to buy CDs from many different banks within the same account.

                We actually have one that matured today so tomorrow or Tuesday when the money has settled in our account, I'll reinvest it.
                Steve

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                * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
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                • #9
                  A friend of mine sold his house a while ago and was buying a $1000 CD per week from his bank.
                  They ended up cutting him off when he got to 30.
                  Apparently they have a rule that you can't have more CD's than 30 open at one time.
                  He had to switch banks so he could keep buying them.

                  His goal was to get to 52 and have a CD maturing every week.

                  Brian

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
                    A friend of mine sold his house a while ago and was buying a $1000 CD per week from his bank.
                    They ended up cutting him off when he got to 30.
                    Apparently they have a rule that you can't have more CD's than 30 open at one time.
                    He had to switch banks so he could keep buying them.

                    His goal was to get to 52 and have a CD maturing every week.
                    To each their own, but that seems nuts.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fishindude77 View Post

                      To each their own, but that seems nuts.
                      I agree. Not really sure what the point would be. I could maybe see one every 2 weeks if you're trying to simulate a paycheck but even that's a lot. Once a month would be plenty. Personally, our CD/Treasury ladder is now set up with one maturing every 3 months. That way if we are short on cash, I can pull some out and rollover the rest. If we're fine, I can just reinvest the full amount.
                      Steve

                      * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                      * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                      * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by disneysteve View Post

                        I agree. Not really sure what the point would be. I could maybe see one every 2 weeks if you're trying to simulate a paycheck but even that's a lot. Once a month would be plenty. Personally, our CD/Treasury ladder is now set up with one maturing every 3 months. That way if we are short on cash, I can pull some out and rollover the rest. If we're fine, I can just reinvest the full amount.
                        Not sure what his reasoning was.
                        All I know is he was stopped at the 30 mark.
                        Brian

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                        • #13
                          But okay stupid question but how does it help? All it does it preserve prinicipal and a little interest for a lot of work if you are perpetually reinvesting it? Versus just investing in one cd or one bond fund?
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