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    High interest rates are bad as a borrower but great as a saver. Being the latter, I was really enjoying that period of 5+% interest on CDs and Treasuries. You can still snag 5% on some short term stuff but I've got a ladder going out through 2026 so as issues mature, I'm now looking at 2027 and those rates have come down quite a bit. I just bought a Agency bond maturing in March 2027 for 4.179% I also bought a Treasury maturing at the end of this year (12/26/24) and even that is only at 4.812%. The money market is actually higher than that but it's only a matter of time before that comes down, especially once the Fed lowers rates which is expected to happen 2-4 times this year. I'm sure that in 6 months, I'll be happy I locked money in but right now it's kind of sad. We still have stuff going out as far as 9/26 paying between 4.9 and 5.3% so we'll get to enjoy those high rates for a couple more years thanks to the ladder I built.
    Steve

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    Yep, we all knew this would happen at some point, enjoyed it while it lasted. Of my 7 large CD's paying 5%+, I only have one maturing in the near future that'll still hopefully be in the 5% range. Synchrony Bank still has a 15 month at 5.50%, be interesting to see how long that one lasts. As a side note, it would be interesting to hear how much taxable interest people made last year with these higher CD's. I'm looking at $30k+ or so in taxable interest income. Luckily I started paying quarterly taxes last year so hopefully no big hit when I do my taxes later.

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    • #3
      Falling rates should make equities paying dividends more attractive to people with an appetite for risk.
      Brian

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      • #4
        The 5%+ on short term rates was nice while it lasted. I'll be interested to see where rates land after the Fed runs implements the predicted rate cuts in 2024.
        “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it … he who doesn’t … pays it.”

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        • #5
          January's CPI came in somewhat hotter than expected. Seemingly, higher rates will stick around for a bit longer.
          “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it … he who doesn’t … pays it.”

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          • #6
            Much of the increase was due to higher shelter prices which make up roughly 1/3 of the CPI. Rent, rent equivalent for homeowners, homeowner's insurance, and lodging away from home are the 4 categories that make up shelter prices. Energy was down. Food was just slightly up... still feels like things are headed in the right direction even if it takes a little longer.
            History will judge the complicit.

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            • #7
              I’m still getting 5%+ on 4 week T Bills through treasury direct. This where I currently have my EF. debating whether to switch it to $1,000 5 year CDs before the upcoming rate cuts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by skives View Post
                I’m still getting 5%+ on 4 week T Bills through treasury direct. This where I currently have my EF. debating whether to switch it to $1,000 5 year CDs before the upcoming rate cuts.
                After today’s Fed announcement rates may start slipping. Hopefully not too quickly as we have a $100,000 bond maturing at the end of the month that I’ll need to reinvest.
                Steve

                * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                  High interest rates are bad as a borrower but great as a saver. Being the latter, I was really enjoying that period of 5+% interest on CDs and Treasuries. You can still snag 5% on some short term stuff but I've got a ladder going out through 2026 so as issues mature, I'm now looking at 2027 and those rates have come down quite a bit. I just bought a Agency bond maturing in March 2027 for 4.179% I also bought a Treasury maturing at the end of this year (12/26/24) and even that is only at 4.812%. The money market is actually higher than that but it's only a matter of time before that comes down, especially once the Fed lowers rates which is expected to happen 2-4 times this year. I'm sure that in 6 months, I'll be happy I locked money in but right now it's kind of sad. We still have stuff going out as far as 9/26 paying between 4.9 and 5.3% so we'll get to enjoy those high rates for a couple more years thanks to the ladder I built.
                  I am getting 5% on a high interest savings account.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by crazyliblady View Post

                    I am getting 5% on a high interest savings account.
                    Our Vanguard money market is still paying 5.27%, which ironically is more than the bond that's maturing on 3/31 which is paying 4.849%. That said, when that bond matures, I'll still reinvest the money even if the rate is a bit lower because I'd rather lock it in for a couple of years knowing full well that rates are going to start falling sometime this year. I may lose a little in the short term but a year or so from now, locking in 5% or high 4% range is going to look sweet.
                    Steve

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                    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
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                    • #11
                      All my six of my CD's are locked up for awhile at 5+%. Next one won't come due until just after the Fed meeting in September. Like the topic says, it was nice while they lasted. I just wouldn't heart broken if inflation continued to rise just a little for awhile.

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                      • #12
                        My high interest savings is still paying 5%.

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                        • #13
                          Looks like I was a little premature with this thread. Over the past week or so I've been reinvesting some excess cash sitting in money markets and still getting 5+% for as long as 5 years.

                          I bought an agency bond that matures in 2039 but is callable in 2029. That's at 5.082%. I'm kind of kicking myself for not getting more of that. I have to check if it's still available. 5% for 5 years is a steal right now.

                          I bought an agency bond that matures in 2026 at 5.116%.

                          I bought a short-term CD that matures in 1/2025 but is callable in 10/2024 at 5.4%. That's just to hold onto some short term cash and it's a little better than the 5.27% of the money market plus it's fixed in case rates drop.
                          Steve

                          * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                          * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
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                          • #14
                            i should probably move our cash out of our capital one money markets earning 4.25% but it's hard to tie it up when it's sink funds and taxes fund and stuff I see myself spending in 6 months. It's where i park our property taxes paid out every 6 months or auto insurance and life insurance once a year.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                              i should probably move our cash out of our capital one money markets earning 4.25% but it's hard to tie it up when it's sink funds and taxes fund and stuff I see myself spending in 6 months. It's where i park our property taxes paid out every 6 months or auto insurance and life insurance once a year.
                              I was in the same situation ~last year. We had over $70k sitting in savings earning relatively little. $35k of that was sinking funds for travel & our next car purchase. I ended up moving that $35k into our brokerage MMF & standard investment mix, thinking that we can always pull it out if/when needed, but otherwise let it grow a little better. I think the side-effect has been that I'm more inclined to find a way to pay for that stuff (travel, at least) out of our normal income stream Rather than pulling from investments, even though the money is still earmarked as sinking funds.

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