Vaccination free for-all

[disneysteve]

Okay folks, any further posts regarding your personal views about COVID will be deleted.

If your post isn't about the availability of the vaccine, which is the topic of this thread, please don't post it. Thank you.

[rennigade]

The problem is you are conflating two very different issues here. If you want to jog through a dangerous neighborhood or gorge on unhealthy food, you alone suffer the consequences. Go right ahead. I've got no problem with that. I may think you're stupid but it's your right to do as you please as long as you aren't hurting anyone else.

If, however, you and a bunch of like-minded folks decide they don't want to wear masks during a pandemic, you are putting everyone around you at risk. You don't have the right to do that.

Not exactly. Someone that eats oreo's or any unhealthy food all day every day will impact us all. They are going to drive up healthcare insurance. Same goes for running through chicago at night. YOu get knifed or shot, someone is going to have to patch you back up. Again, healthcare.

Why are seatbelts required when you drive yet riding a motorcycle without a helmet on isnt the law (in some states.) Seatbelts are required to be wore in all states I believe. You would think that you would be the only one who suffers if you get in an accident, yet its the law.

[TexasHusker]

Friends and family of mine have gotten covid, and we've lost 2 while several others had some big scares. I have not gotten covid, nor has my husband. Since very early in 2020 we have kept our distance from others and drastically changed our behavior.

So that's me saying, I listed to the advice of my doctor as well as the people I work with who said to treat this like an infectious respiratory disease. And we didn't get covid. I can respect your position as someone who cuts hair for a living, but not as an infectious disease expert.

I'm not an infectious disease expert, but I do know how to discern facts from fiction. The facts are, at least so far, that human behavior didn't change the trajectory of the virus. I am open to facts that show otherwise, whether you are a doctor or a candle stick maker. BTW, I don't cut hair.

[ua_guy]

That actually was a farce, too. The virus did what respiratory viruses do: Spread. Human behavior didn't change it in any meaningful way, and I challenge anyone to offer up evidence that proves otherwise.

Friends and family of mine have gotten covid, and we've lost 2 while several others had some big scares. I have not gotten covid, nor has my husband. Since very early in 2020 we have kept our distance from others and drastically changed our behavior.

So that's me saying, I listed to the advice of my doctor as well as the people I work with who said to treat this like an infectious respiratory disease. And we didn't get covid. I can respect your position as someone who cuts hair for a living, but not as an infectious disease expert.

[TexasHusker]

I have resisted commenting on the original comment because the only thing that came to mind with "farce invented in March 2020" was hydroxychloroquine, injecting bleach and the suggestion that COVID virus would go away by April (2020). (And, then repeatedly claimed that it would go away by itself over the next several months).

That actually was a farce, too. The virus did what respiratory viruses do: Spread. Human behavior didn't change it in any meaningful way, and I challenge anyone to offer up evidence that proves otherwise.

[disneysteve]

There's really no point in continuing the back and forth. Either you believe science or you don't. Either you believe masks work or you don't. Either you think the government has the right to issue rules that protect all Americans or you don't. Nothing anyone says here is going to change the minds of people with different beliefs.

Let's try and keep the thread back on the topic of issues with the availability of vaccines, not what your personal beliefs are about COVID in general. There's been more than enough of that.

[Like2Plan]

Also, in terms of dealing with COVID--no other country has lost as many people. The USA (at this point in time) accounts for roughly 20% of all the COVID deaths world wide.

[Like2Plan]

The science that was invented in March 2020 that turned out to be a farce?

Fake News Flag. Admins- how do you handle posts like this? Supporting the spread of this misinformation is dangerous.

I have resisted commenting on the original comment because the only thing that came to mind with "farce invented in March 2020" was hydroxychloroquine, injecting bleach and the suggestion that COVID virus would go away by April (2020). (And, then repeatedly claimed that it would go away by itself over the next several months).

Or, maybe the most recent quote from a certain someone in response to the latest piece on CNN regarding the pandemic, "....which I fortunately almost always overturned" (everything Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx recommended).


But, this pandemic is not over, yet. I'm glad Texas (and MS) rates have gone down. I hope that trend continues to go down to zero ASAP.

[TexasHusker]

The problem is you are conflating two very different issues here. If you want to jog through a dangerous neighborhood or gorge on unhealthy food, you alone suffer the consequences. Go right ahead. I've got no problem with that. I may think you're stupid but it's your right to do as you please as long as you aren't hurting anyone else.

If, however, you and a bunch of like-minded folks decide they don't want to wear masks during a pandemic, you are putting everyone around you at risk. You don't have the right to do that.

The analogy isn’t perfect, and as I stated, it was assuming for a moment that lockdown/mask-up measures were effective. Which they weren’t and aren’t. The data is clear.

[disneysteve]

If I choose to take a run through the south side of Chicago after dark, that should be my right. If I choose to eat 3 pounds of Oreos for breakfast each day, that should be my right.

what I have to wear over my face

The problem is you are conflating two very different issues here. If you want to jog through a dangerous neighborhood or gorge on unhealthy food, you alone suffer the consequences. Go right ahead. I've got no problem with that. I may think you're stupid but it's your right to do as you please as long as you aren't hurting anyone else.

If, however, you and a bunch of like-minded folks decide they don't want to wear masks during a pandemic, you are putting everyone around you at risk. You don't have the right to do that.

[TexasHusker]

Ive come to the conclusion that people just like being told what to do. Very few people think for themselves anymore. People pick teams and they can never be convinced otherwise. Most people cant swallow their pride. How often does someone ever admit that they were wrong?

The facts are out. This plague wasnt the global killer that mainstream wanted. Covid is not a death sentence like we were told in the beginning. Dont be afraid people. Turn the news off. Do what we do...watch more of the food network

I’m not quite as skeptical. Early on, we had no idea what we were dealing with. Take one for the team and trust the officials. COVID is bad, bad stuff. I know of several who died. So in the interest of national public health, and an unknown virus, I could understand the draconian measures, to a point.

Certainly, Texas and many other states were gambling by opening up so soon. It was a calculated risk. They didn’t have good data to rely on last summer.

Yet as it turned out, their trend lines were in step with the lockdown states. So they took a gamble and it turned out, the results were in their favor.

What is shocking is that sheeple are still marching to the lockdown / mask-up drum , when we all now have plenty of data that proves it didn’t make any measurable difference. Obstinacy isn’t a virtue.

And even assuming briefly that the measures did work, we used to live in a country where we has the freedom to use personal judgement and responsibility in our choices. If I choose to take a run through the south side of Chicago after dark, that should be my right. If I choose to eat 3 pounds of Oreos for breakfast each day, that should be my right.

I am not a proponent of big government telling me when I can go shopping, what I have to wear over my face, what I should eat, what my healthcare plan benefits should be, how much money I should make, how much free money I should get sprinkled on me, whether to forgive my loans, etc.

This is sick-o.

[ua_guy]

Ive come to the conclusion that people just like being told what to do. Very few people think for themselves anymore. People pick teams and they can never be convinced otherwise. Most people cant swallow their pride. How often does someone ever admit that they were wrong?

The facts are out. This plague wasnt the global killer that mainstream wanted. Covid is not a death sentence like we were told in the beginning. Dont be afraid people. Turn the news off. Do what we do...watch more of the food network

Oh, does OAN now have cooking shows now? Who knew!

[rennigade]

Ive come to the conclusion that people just like being told what to do. Very few people think for themselves anymore. People pick teams and they can never be convinced otherwise. Most people cant swallow their pride. How often does someone ever admit that they were wrong?

The facts are out. This plague wasnt the global killer that mainstream wanted. Covid is not a death sentence like we were told in the beginning. Dont be afraid people. Turn the news off. Do what we do...watch more of the food network

[TexasHusker]

Fake News Flag. Admins- how do you handle posts like this? Supporting the spread of this misinformation is dangerous.

Show me data to the contrary and I’ll delete it.

[Snydley]

The science that was invented in March 2020 that turned out to be a farce?

Fake News Flag. Admins- how do you handle posts like this? Supporting the spread of this misinformation is dangerous.