Vaccination free for-all

[rennigade]

I’m not sure what restrictions you are referring to, but if you do even a cursory comparison of all the states, regardless of their restrictions or lack thereof, the outcomes and trend lines are remarkably similar. Human behavior isn’t altering the behavior of this virus.

Furthermore, the various restrictions were originally imposed to “flatten the curve” (which they didn’t), AND by doing so, keeping the hospitals from being overrun.

In terms of the effectiveness of the masks, even the CDC’s own data, published (buried) in a December report, stated that masks “may” have “helped prevent” the spread of COVID by as much as 1.5% per day. Not 50,40,30,20,10, or even 5 percent. 1.5 percent. And that’s a “may have”.

Today, the folks who were in any sort of vulnerable risk category have had the chance to receive a vaccine. While cases could be rising or falling week to week, CNN isn’t reporting that hospitalizations and deaths are plummeting. That’s because COVID is about like the flu for the 40-and-under crowd, who isn’t yet vaccinated.

Simultaneously, some states are moving toward masking as a permanent new normal. That’s sad. This used to be a free country.

The media will never allow covid to go away. We'll hear about it every single year. Who is easier to control and manipulate, those who are scared or those who are not? The amount of power and control the government now has and has used is scary. Never let a tragedy go to waste!

[TexasHusker]

"Since the study started in January, protection against symptomatic Covid, four weeks after the first dose, ranged between 57% and 61% for the Pfizer vaccine and between 60% and 73% for the AstraZeneca inoculation."

link:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/coro...s-working.html

So, better than I thought. But, I still wouldn't forgo the second dose of the Pfizer or Moderna.

That study is British, and there is a vested interest in Britain to promote the vaccine of their own maker, Astra.

FDA reporting low 90s % efficacy after one dose for Pfizer / Moderna.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/18/single...ective-as-two/

[Like2Plan]

"Since the study started in January, protection against symptomatic Covid, four weeks after the first dose, ranged between 57% and 61% for the Pfizer vaccine and between 60% and 73% for the AstraZeneca inoculation."

link:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/coronavirus-uk-charts-show-how-pfizers-vaccine-is-working.html

So, better than I thought. But, I still wouldn't forgo the second dose of the Pfizer or Moderna.

[Like2Plan]

Studies are showing Pfizer and Moderna to have 90+ percent efficacy 28 days after the first shot. So those two are far more effective vaccines even after just one shot, than the old technology J&J vaccine.

I had heard that the efficacy of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine was much lower after only one shot (like only 45-50%). But, I haven't seen the studies to which you are referring. (I was very happy to get the Moderna vaccine.) But, the point is-if it is a difference between getting no vaccine and the J&J vaccine, it is better to get the J&J vaccine.

[TexasHusker]

[TexasHusker]

[TexasHusker]

I think if a person felt strongly about only getting one dose, maybe they might be inclined to get the JNJ vaccine instead? They would be "cleared" sooner, too. Because Pfizer has a 3 week interval between doses and Moderna has a 4 week interval between doses.

Studies are showing Pfizer and Moderna to have 90+ percent efficacy 28 days after the first shot. So those two are far more effective vaccines even after just one shot, than the old technology J&J vaccine.

[TexasHusker]

I’m not surprised. I can’t see cruises resuming until the majority of the population is vaccinated. And I expect proof of vaccination will be required to board.

Cases are up a lot here in NJ and in many other states. As restrictions are lifted prematurely, we go backwards.

I’m not sure what restrictions you are referring to, but if you do even a cursory comparison of all the states, regardless of their restrictions or lack thereof, the outcomes and trend lines are remarkably similar. Human behavior isn’t altering the behavior of this virus.

Furthermore, the various restrictions were originally imposed to “flatten the curve” (which they didn’t), AND by doing so, keeping the hospitals from being overrun.

In terms of the effectiveness of the masks, even the CDC’s own data, published (buried) in a December report, stated that masks “may” have “helped prevent” the spread of COVID by as much as 1.5% per day. Not 50,40,30,20,10, or even 5 percent. 1.5 percent. And that’s a “may have”.

Today, the folks who were in any sort of vulnerable risk category have had the chance to receive a vaccine. While cases could be rising or falling week to week, CNN isn’t reporting that hospitalizations and deaths are plummeting. That’s because COVID is about like the flu for the 40-and-under crowd, who isn’t yet vaccinated.

Simultaneously, some states are moving toward masking as a permanent new normal. That’s sad. This used to be a free country.

[srblanco7]

Received my first dose on Friday!

[QuarterMillionMan]

Congrats L2P, oh now you can get a free Krispy Kreme doughnut.

[Like2Plan]

I received my second dose of vaccine today!

[Like2Plan]

I saw this on CNBC:
Free Krispy Kreme doughnuts, popcorn and even marijuana — businesses pile on more perks for getting vaccinated

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/23/here-are-a-few-of-the-freebies-for-getting-the-covid-vaccine-.html?recirc=taboolainternal

https://www.krispykreme.com/promos/sweetsupport?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Organic&utm_campaign=SweetSupport

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMvi9pfptmY/

https://www.marketgardenbrewery.com/beer-and-the-shot

[Like2Plan]

With the CDC vaccination card I see a loophole where if someone gets the 1st dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna shot, they can write in a fraudulent 2nd dose themselves without ever getting the 2nd dose. Of course they would only be cheating themselves but if they need the "fully vaccinated" CDC card to board a plane it could easily be done.

I think if a person felt strongly about only getting one dose, maybe they might be inclined to get the JNJ vaccine instead? They would be "cleared" sooner, too. Because Pfizer has a 3 week interval between doses and Moderna has a 4 week interval between doses.

[disneysteve]

With the CDC vaccination card I see a loophole where if someone gets the 1st dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna shot, they can write in a fraudulent 2nd dose themselves without ever getting the 2nd dose. Of course they would only be cheating themselves but if they need the "fully vaccinated" CDC card to board a plane it could easily be done.

I've also seen reports of people using photos online to make fake cards.

People suck.

The good news is that as of 2 days ago, over 133 million doses have been given in the US and about 47.4 million people are fully vaccinated, 14.45% of the population. The number of doses is climbing by 2-3 million each day.

[QuarterMillionMan]

With the CDC vaccination card I see a loophole where if someone gets the 1st dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna shot, they can write in a fraudulent 2nd dose themselves without ever getting the 2nd dose. Of course they would only be cheating themselves but if they need the "fully vaccinated" CDC card to board a plane it could easily be done.