Vaccination free for-all

[james.hendrickson]

Getting back to the original topic:

I'm starting to see ads online for pop up vaccination clinics, especially in underserved areas. While that's great, I wonder how effective they will be. If you are advertising in places like Facebook, will the people who would actually benefit from the service actually know about it. I don't know how else they are spreading the word about these opportunities. Hopefully they are plastering the local shops and restaurants and community centers with the information so that the people who live in those neighborhoods actually find out about the clinic in time to take advantage of it.

A doctor friend shared an ad yesterday for a pop up clinic today. Hopefully, they've been advertising that clinic for a week or two. If they truly didn't announce it until a day or two before, I wonder how good the turnout will be.

Yes - I got three notifications on my phone for pop up events today and yesterday.

[disneysteve]

Getting back to the original topic:

I'm starting to see ads online for pop up vaccination clinics, especially in underserved areas. While that's great, I wonder how effective they will be. If you are advertising in places like Facebook, will the people who would actually benefit from the service actually know about it. I don't know how else they are spreading the word about these opportunities. Hopefully they are plastering the local shops and restaurants and community centers with the information so that the people who live in those neighborhoods actually find out about the clinic in time to take advantage of it.

A doctor friend shared an ad yesterday for a pop up clinic today. Hopefully, they've been advertising that clinic for a week or two. If they truly didn't announce it until a day or two before, I wonder how good the turnout will be.

[TexasHusker]

I think MOST of the draconian measures were absolutely prudent a year ago. But as hard data has emerged day after day, month after month, that these measures did little -to-nothing to change the virus trends, it has become obvious no one is following any “science”, but rather some political garbage. That is unacceptable, regardless of your political bent.

[Snydley]

Always something new to fear. Two months ago it was The Variants. The CDC chief bawling about it. That didn’t work out. Now it’s India.

When the CDC chief teared up about the variants I was super-pissed. What does this serve, and the science didn't support her panic (and I work in this field). I would say there was a less than 1% risk of vaccines not being effective on the variants when she made this statement. You need to level with people, give them actual info, talk about relative risk (10% vs 1% vs lower). They never do this.

Now, people are choosing vaccines vs infection risk- how about we provide them with the data? Your risk of vaccine reaction is X, your risk of COVID-19 complications during initial infection is Y, your risk on long term (potentially permanent) issues is Z. Update these numbers, for all age groups, as they come in...and pitch it all as, here's the info, the decision is yours.

[Snydley]

Actually that’s media spin.

The biggest hurdle is apathy. To the average 20 or 30 something, why would I screw with getting shots if I have to act unvaccinated? For the low-risk age group, there is no incentive to get shots. I have 47 employees, and most fall in to this category.

Now the gubmit is floating paying people to get vaccinated. Why not just let them act vaccinated? That would gain some traction.

If there's one thing I've learned in the last year, it's how poorly most scientists and physicians understand people. I agree with TH here. If the risk of infection is less than 1:1000 post-vaccination, let vaccinated people go unmasked in public. Will people just go unmasked even if not vaccinated? Maybe/likely. But one could argue that this plan will lead to far less new infections and isn't this our ultimate goal? Remember, being unmasked in stores, etc. likely causes a small fraction of transmission (most occurring in homes).

And if your response is, "people shouldn't care about wearing masks in public", I say to this, maybe YOU don't care, but others do. We need to get out of our own heads and recognize different priorities and ways of thinking without instantly dismissing them as inferior.

[TexasHusker]

In other news, the CDC is now recommending seatbelts even when not driving.

[Like2Plan]

Covid-19 Vaccines vs. Infections
By Elliot Bentley
May 6, 2021 5:30 am ET
Link to article:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...rt-11620293401

"Those numbers are far from what experts say is probably necessary to achieve herd immunity, the point at which enough people become immune such that the whole community is protected. And the average daily rate of vaccinations has fallen by almost a third from its peak in mid-April.
While those numbers are frustrating efforts to broaden the vaccinated population, the country does appear to have reached a tipping point in passing the 40% mark—a figure that many public-health experts call an important threshold where vaccinations gain an upper hand over the coronavirus."


Looking at the graphic provided in the WSJ article it appears that the vaccine has had a significant impact on states that have had significant outbreaks of the disease.


How Is The COVID-19 Vaccination Campaign Going In Your State?
Updated May 6, 2021
Link to article:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-in-your-state

This week Maine, Connecticut and Vermont lead the way with over 40% of the total population vaccinated.

New Hampshire is the winner again this week with more than 60% of the total population receiving at least one dose. Vermont and Massachusetts have reached 58% of the total population receiving at least one dose.

[QuarterMillionMan]

[QuarterMillionMan]

Texas is right.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

That sounds about right that people distrust everything.

[TexasHusker]

53 percent of those polled do not trust the political news they are getting from the media. Another 14 percent aren't sure, leaving a confidence percentage of 33 percent.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._to_help_biden

[james.hendrickson]

Sure. Personally, this isn't the hill I'd choose to die on to prove or argue that point.

Well, you're right in that its far afield from personal finance, or saving money - and it might explain why some people don't want to get vaccinated. It speaks to a lack of trust.

[ua_guy]

UA_Guy, the specifics aside, I think Texas's larger point is that the ruling class in the US is riddled with hypocrisy. That's a broader point that has some merit.

Sure. Personally, this isn't the hill I'd choose to die on to prove or argue that point.

[james.hendrickson]

You're nit-picking a really meaningless point here, and trying to sow the same doubt, false accusations, and fear-mongering, using all the telltale buzzwords. "They" and "ruling class" and "elite". Yawn. Biden didn't wear a mask in Jimmy Carter's living room, his own home, where everyone was vaccinated? Nobody cares. And the CDC agrees it was safe to do so.

UA_Guy, the specifics aside, I think Texas's larger point is that the ruling class in the US is riddled with hypocrisy. That's a broader point that has some merit.

[TexasHusker]

What if the media is reporting a current event, and not an agenda?

...wouldn’t that be a fine day. Dig me up.