Saving Money And Paying Bills Are "Conservative Values"?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

That's interesting....I acknowledge my social circle is small, but I can't think of any adults who live off of their parents. Are you thinking of 18+ year old students?

Basically, yes. I cannot think of a single one who isn't liberal. Not one.

If they're out on their own, there really isn't any palpable difference that I can see.

[Nutria]

That's interesting....I acknowledge my social circle is small, but I can't think of any adults who live off of their parents.

For First Time in Modern Era, Living With Parents Edges Out Other Living Arrangements for 18- to 34-Year-Olds/

Are you thinking of 18+ year old students?

Give me a smidge of credit.

[Nutria]

I'm just stating a fact, little man.

The fact that you take a few tiny, isolated facts from a single, narrow view and then extrapolate them to a whole continent means that you obviously don't see the fallacy.

I'm not surprised, really.

[Nutria]

Basically, yes. I cannot think of a single one who isn't liberal. Not one.

I can't think of a single person I know who smokes cigarettes. Therefore, no one smokes cigarettes.

[Joan.of.the.Arch]

For First Time in Modern Era, Living With Parents Edges Out Other Living Arrangements for 18- to 34-Year-Olds/



Give me a smidge of credit.

Sure, take all the credit you want. I'm not trying to extend what I see (or don't see) to all of human society. As I said, my social circle is small.

I do think adults can live with family without it being a case of "living off" them. If families cannot be mutual, then who can be?

And in fact, I completely forgot that in my own family, my father lives in my sister's home (Is the parent living off the adult child?) and my brother now lives there, too. They cooperate rather than sponge, if that is what has been meant by "living off."

To bring it back to the original topic, I would say that two of those family members are conservative and one of them middle of the road, and they do not fail to pay their bills. As if political outlook has much to do with saving and paying bills!

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

The fact that you take a few tiny, isolated facts from a single, narrow view and then extrapolate them to a whole continent means that you obviously don't see the fallacy.

I'm not surprised, really.

I'm not extrapolating anything. However, it does not surprise me that jobless 20 somethings gravitate towards progressivism. Does it surprise you? Why?

[GoodSteward]

Since that would have required Mongolia to have had banks back in the day, I find your assertion most dubious, and requiring much solid evidence.

It is found on wikipedia under Bankruptcy history. I haven't dug into it for verification since I didn't care, just made for a good conversation piece on this subject lol.

"Bankruptcy is also documented in East Asia. According to al-Maqrizi, the Yassa of Genghis Khan contained a provision that mandated the death penalty for anyone who became bankrupt three times."

[GoodSteward]

My older brother and his wife and four kids have lived with his wife's parents for around seven years. It's a mess, but they keep doing it because they fail with money. I keep trying to help with advice, but they always say they have it figured out now. Things are going to change. Instead they keep making bad choices and disregard my input. Some recent arguments have taken place, however, so I think they are going to be forced to figure this out. They need to.

I have seen people in 40s and 50s come back home because they are not responsible enough on their own. It's really sad. I have personally lived with both my parents and my inlaws for a short time in my 11 years of marriage, and I can say it is NOT good to do. The last time I was with living with my parents I made a commitment to do whatever I needed to never have to be in that situation again. It isn't an option for me. That made me grow up quick. People are not usually as quick to make dumb choices when others quit bailing them out.

Our whole family is conservative. Most of the people I'm around are conservative. That's why I'm confused as to how any policial designation makes a single difference. I see more people making bad choices than I do good. Most of my family is financially irresponsible, and i was in that trap for most of my younger life. However, they are not leeches or anything. I mean they pay their own way and pay their bills, and most are finally realizing they need to be out of debt.

[Nutria]

I'm not extrapolating anything. However, it does not surprise me that jobless 20 somethings gravitate towards progressivism. Does it surprise you? Why?

Does it surprise you that none of the unplanned, unmarried pregnancies that I know of happened to "Obama dislikers", and the parents all go to church? They're all Obama-hating conservatives and none have gotten married.

(Oh, wait... my wife got accidentally pregnant when we weren't married. That was quickly rectified, though. However, neither of us go to church.)

[Nutria]

My older brother and his wife and four kids have lived with his wife's parents for around seven years. It's a mess, but they keep doing it because they fail with money. I keep trying to help with advice, but they always say they have it figured out now. Things are going to change. Instead they keep making bad choices and disregard my input. Some recent arguments have taken place, however, so I think they are going to be forced to figure this out. They need to.

I have seen people in 40s and 50s come back home because they are not responsible enough on their own. It's really sad. I have personally lived with both my parents and my inlaws for a short time in my 11 years of marriage, and I can say it is NOT good to do. The last time I was with living with my parents I made a commitment to do whatever I needed to never have to be in that situation again. It isn't an option for me. That made me grow up quick. People are not usually as quick to make dumb choices when others quit bailing them out.

Our whole family is conservative. Most of the people I'm around are conservative. That's why I'm confused as to how any policial designation makes a single difference. I see more people making bad choices than I do good. Most of my family is financially irresponsible, and i was in that trap for most of my younger life. However, they are not leeches or anything. I mean they pay their own way and pay their bills, and most are finally realizing they need to be out of debt.

By definition, if you're having to live with your parents because you're making financially irresponsible choices, then you're not paying your own way.

[Nutria]

"Bankruptcy is also documented in East Asia. According to al-Maqrizi, the Yassa of Genghis Khan contained a provision that mandated the death penalty for anyone who became bankrupt three times."

No citation, so there's no way to validate whether the writer pulled it out of his rectum.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Does it surprise you that none of the unplanned, unmarried pregnancies that I know of happened to "Obama dislikers", and the parents all go to church? They're all Obama-hating conservatives and none have gotten married.

(Oh, wait... my wife got accidentally pregnant when we weren't married. That was quickly rectified, though. However, neither of us go to church.)

If it's a redneck area no, otherwise yes.

[Nutria]

If it's a redneck area no, otherwise yes.

That's very discriminatory and judgmental of you, in addition to assuming the color of my skin.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

That's very discriminatory and judgmental of you, in addition to assuming the color of my skin.

Thank you, I appreciate that.

[GoodSteward]

No citation, so there's no way to validate whether the writer pulled it out of his rectum.

The lack of proof makes it that much more fun to throw around.