2020 census

[Nutria]

Yep I did it when I got it. BUT there is a question, where will you be living April 1, 2020. I have 2 kids away at college. When I hit the help it said to not count college kids if they weren't living in my house 4/1/20, so I didn't. It also said they were to be counted at their address as of 4/1/20.

Then I kept asking my college kids, did you get a census in the mail? They keep saying no. I should've just put them on mine! I did find a link to fill it out on line and sent it to them, there is a pick if you don't have a code so you can fill it out.

But I really feel I should've put them on mine, dang it. They will both probably be coming back home to live in July so why does it matter where they lived on April 1st?

My DD is at college; the site says that the University will handle the counts. (The big problem is school closures due to COVID.)

[james.hendrickson]

Filled out my form a couple of weeks ago. It look about ten minutes.

[~bs]

Should defer until 2021

[riverwed070707]

After 72 years.



What specifically that's on the Census form are you worried about them finding out about you?

I started filling mine out online. Got annoyed it wouldn't let me submit without a phone number and didn't complete it. I'll do the mail one so I can leave blank what I don't want to enter. I'm sure the gov can figure out how to get ahold of me if they need to

[ua_guy]

What specifically that's on the Census form are you worried about them finding out about you?

So, our has already been filled out. I've been following the discussions on the questions, etc. This year gave me pause. I think it's great this is the first year the Census allows response for same-sex couples. I'd feel comfortable if this occurred under a balanced administration, but it isn't. I'm not 100% comfortable that there's going to be an "inventory" of known same-sex couples throughout the country since there are groups who are actively hateful and who are trying to undo marriage equality and things which are very important for the gay community. I'm uncomfortable but not fearful, there's a difference. It's more a ponderance of how could the information be used for nefarious or negative purposes.

[Nutria]

So, our has already been filled out. I've been following the discussions on the questions, etc. This year gave me pause. I think it's great this is the first year the Census allows response for same-sex couples. I'd feel comfortable if this occurred under a balanced administration, but it isn't. I'm not 100% comfortable that there's going to be an "inventory" of known same-sex couples throughout the country since there are groups who are actively hateful and who are trying to undo marriage equality and things which are very important for the gay community. I'm uncomfortable but not fearful, there's a difference. It's more a ponderance of how could the information be used for nefarious or negative purposes.

Comments like this really depress me, like when right-wingers moaned so loudly about Obama taking their guns.

https://www.census.gov/history/www/reference/privacy_confidentiality/

"Federal Law Protects Your Information. The U.S. Census Bureau is bound by Title 13 of the United States Code. This law not only provides authority for the work we do, but also provides strong protection for the information we collect from individuals and businesses. As a result, the Census Bureau has one of the strongest confidentiality guarantees in the federal government.

It is against the law for any Census Bureau employee to disclose or publish any census or survey information that identifies an individual or business. This is true even for inter-agency communication: the FBI and other government entities do not have the legal right to access this information. In fact, when these protections have been challenged, Title 13's confidentiality guarantee has been upheld."

[disneysteve]

So, our has already been filled out. I've been following the discussions on the questions, etc. This year gave me pause. I think it's great this is the first year the Census allows response for same-sex couples. I'd feel comfortable if this occurred under a balanced administration, but it isn't. I'm not 100% comfortable that there's going to be an "inventory" of known same-sex couples throughout the country since there are groups who are actively hateful and who are trying to undo marriage equality and things which are very important for the gay community. I'm uncomfortable but not fearful, there's a difference. It's more a ponderance of how could the information be used for nefarious or negative purposes.

I definitely have mixed feelings on this. The marriage question should just be "Are you married?" It shouldn't matter if it's a man and a woman, two men, or two women. It just shouldn't. Marriage is marriage, plain and simple. However, I also recognize that part of acceptance and equality involves representation so knowing how many same sex couples there are plays into that. It's harder to ignore something when you see the numbers. If you're a homophobic mayor or governor or president, seeing the actual number of same sex couples in your town or state or country may force you to do the right thing because that block of voters/citizens is meaningful.

[Nutria]

If you're a homophobic mayor or governor or president, seeing the actual number of same sex couples in your town or state or country may force you to do the right thing because that block of voters/citizens is meaningful.

Unless you live in a handful of big urban centers, the percentages are going to be tiny. Sub-1% tiny. (Every time I look at a county on Wikipedia, I like to look at the demographic data. The percentage of same-sex couples is always -- except for that handful of gay-popular urban areas -- statistical noise.)

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Maybe a lot of same sex couples aren't even married. But the legalization changed because everyone started having someone in their family.

[scfr]

I did like Milly and clicked "Next" to bypass questions I was unwilling to answer, which was many of them. I answered the questions needed for the legitimate reasons(congressional allotments, funding for schools or services for the elderly, infrastructure funding). If you are wondering why, this is it. If you're inclined to try to convince me that something like this won't happen again, save your time.

[Nutria]

I did like Milly and clicked "Next" to bypass questions I was unwilling to answer, which was many of them. I answered the questions needed for the legitimate reasons(congressional allotments, funding for schools or services for the elderly, infrastructure funding). If you are wondering why, this is it. If you're inclined to try to convince me that something like this won't happen again, save your time.

Are you sure that it was illegal for them to do so? (The "72 year rule" was passed into law only in 1978.)

[ua_guy]

Comments like this really depress me, like when right-wingers moaned so loudly about Obama taking their guns.

https://www.census.gov/history/www/reference/privacy_confidentiality/

"Federal Law Protects Your Information. The U.S. Census Bureau is bound by Title 13 of the United States Code. This law not only provides authority for the work we do, but also provides strong protection for the information we collect from individuals and businesses. As a result, the Census Bureau has one of the strongest confidentiality guarantees in the federal government.

It is against the law for any Census Bureau employee to disclose or publish any census or survey information that identifies an individual or business. This is true even for inter-agency communication: the FBI and other government entities do not have the legal right to access this information. In fact, when these protections have been challenged, Title 13's confidentiality guarantee has been upheld."

You're welcome to be depressed but that doesn't change the reality that the current administration has a proven record of ignoring established law, case law, and legal precedent. There ARE groups of people in this country who wish to undo existing law and there ARE people in this country that are actively violent against gay people. Until you've lived through that --you don't really understand how ****ed this country truly is.

[disneysteve]

You're welcome to be depressed but that doesn't change the reality that the current administration has a proven record of ignoring established law, case law, and legal precedent.

Exactly correct.

[Nutria]

there ARE people in this country that are actively violent against gay people. Until you've lived through that --you don't really understand how ****ed this country truly is.

If you think the US is truly ****ed because of how people treat gays, then you live in a bubble.

[ua_guy]

If you think the US is truly ****ed because of how people treat gays, then you live in a bubble.

I don't live in a bubble. Add this to the list of truly ****ed things. I answered the census honestly, and at the request of the US government. I can only hope this information isn't used for nefarious purposes. This IS the country we live in.