how much have you paid for a car and what would you pay for a car?

[cypher1]

OOOOOOOOO!!!!! OOOHHHH!!! I KNOW!!!! You should get a Tesla CyberTruck!!

::shudder::

Whatever visual designer created that monstrosity should be drug into an alley, shot, and his corpse towed behind said vehicle.

When my friend showed me the pic and started bragging about the design, I tried holding back from laughing but couldn't do it. I pictured an older episode of the Simpsons where Homer designs his own custom car.

At this point I'm pointing for Tesla to make a motorcycle like in Tron: Legacy.

[kork13]

At this point I'm pointing for Tesla to make a motorcycle like in Tron: Legacy.

Now THAT might actually turn out really cool! You should jump on Twitter and pitch the idea to Elon Musk.

[Singuy]

my issue has been cost of electric cars has been substantially more than any IC car. It hasn't been worth investing in. However with it becoming more widespread in the sense that more companies are making cheaper electric cars I think it's worth looking into. I mean i could and still can't justify a $55k tesla model 3. How long will it take to beat a 3 year old camry or accord or if you were really cheap civic/corolla. Also how long would it take to beat even a used electric BMW i3? Even the cheapest tesla model 3 is $39k and with taxes for me that's around $43k. People who like cars buy them.

Friends who want an electric car usually buy a leaf, bmw i3, volt/bolt, etc. DH's 2 coworkers bought a bmw i3 and Kia niro. BMW used for $12k and Kia new for like $20k. So even then how do you beat the bmw with the tesla? That's a lot of $$$ that you have to make up for an electric car. And if you say "it's self-driving!" The response is then it's not $39k base price before taxes and fees. So you are starting at a higher price point for a better car yes, but it's a lot more money to get the longer range, self driving, etc. Or a lot of friends have prius that they bought and kept forever.

DH and I keep toying with it. I'm debating the Y but I think it's just really going to be $60k and i'm not sure i can spend that versus looking even at other electric cars.

You should start looking at resell values of Teslas and will soon come to the conclusion that buying any other electric car is essentially throwing money away. It's way happen when a company priorities software updates so a 2016 Model 3 has all the same features as the 2020 Model 3(including the increase in horsepower that came OTA).

[Singuy]

OOOOOOOOO!!!!! OOOHHHH!!! I KNOW!!!! You should get a Tesla CyberTruck!!

::shudder::

Whatever visual designer created that monstrosity should be drug into an alley, shot, and his corpse towed behind said vehicle.

Cybertruck is more of a marketing genius than anything, creating the most traffic for Tesla in it's entire history. It's also an extremely good company truck that does a lot of marketing (you know the decals that get you to call them for lawn service or roof repairs). There's no way people are not going to look at that truck...and while they look at the truck, plenty of eyeballs are looking at your advertisement as well.

[Petunia 100]

Our newest was $53,000, but it came out to about $41,000 with the employee discount. I would do it again. All of us love the new car and we got used to the higher-end bells and whistles pretty darn quickly. Just my 2 cents, but I got rid of our Outback to get our new car and I would never buy a Subaru again.

What did you dislike about the Subaru? Was it unreliable?

[LivingAlmostLarge]

You should start looking at resell values of Teslas and will soon come to the conclusion that buying any other electric car is essentially throwing money away. It's way happen when a company priorities software updates so a 2016 Model 3 has all the same features as the 2020 Model 3(including the increase in horsepower that came OTA).

It's pretty cheap electric cars and had to argue that you can come out ahead when you buy a $14k electric car versus $40k model 3. Maybe when model 3 is used, but I'm not sure. I mean the gas savings is the saving they are both electric and same maintenance. So in theory you just have to get better value. I can see the point of the other electric car companies. I was tempted to have my DH pick up a used electric commuting car. We discussed it seriously because it was so cheap.

[msomnipotent]

What did you dislike about the Subaru? Was it unreliable?

The safety features were unreliable. The last straw came when it thought moderate rain was an obstacle and slammed on the brakes on a busy highway. It also went into X mode several times. I'm not exactly sure of all the reasons why it would go into X mode, but one reason is if you do not put the gas cap on exactly right. Not just a little loose or too tight, but EXACTLY right. It will suddenly shut itself off without warning and won't restart until you try to restart 5 times (at least that is what the lousy dealership told us but sometimes it didn't work). It also happens either an hour or a few days from when you last got gas so it is a big surprise when it happens, especially when half of your car is sticking out into the busiest street in the county with cars coming at you 50 mph+ and you suddenly can't move. There were a lot of things wrong with it and the dealership would either say that is just how Subarus are, they can't replicate the problem, or I didn't put the gas cap on right. They even tried to tell me the problems we were having with the display were because of the gas cap.

[Petunia 100]

The safety features were unreliable. The last straw came when it thought moderate rain was an obstacle and slammed on the brakes on a busy highway. It also went into X mode several times. I'm not exactly sure of all the reasons why it would go into X mode, but one reason is if you do not put the gas cap on exactly right. Not just a little loose or too tight, but EXACTLY right. It will suddenly shut itself off without warning and won't restart until you try to restart 5 times (at least that is what the lousy dealership told us but sometimes it didn't work). It also happens either an hour or a few days from when you last got gas so it is a big surprise when it happens, especially when half of your car is sticking out into the busiest street in the county with cars coming at you 50 mph+ and you suddenly can't move. There were a lot of things wrong with it and the dealership would either say that is just how Subarus are, they can't replicate the problem, or I didn't put the gas cap on right. They even tried to tell me the problems we were having with the display were because of the gas cap.

Wow, what an awful experience! I'd have gotten rid of it, too. Thank you for sharing this. Subaru Outback is on my short list of daily drivers, but this info makes me re-think.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

i read that tesla 3 are outselling luxury cars. That the majority of owners are turning in BMW, Lexus, Acura, Benz, etc. So I would say that it's not exactly the car for the masses yet.I do think it'll happen maybe after the 3 starts to be sold used. These cars will last 500k miles. But truthfully will people keep them that long?

[Fishindude77]

Just bought a new Buick Enclave for the wife, $38,000 and change.

[disneysteve]

These cars will last 500k miles. But truthfully will people keep them that long?

Of course not. Most cars today will last at least 100K and typically 200K or more but how many people keep them that long. People are always shocked when we post a photo of our odometer turning 100K like it's some big deal. I used to have a coworkers who had a Corolla with over 300K on it and people thought she was nuts.

I doubt many people will keep any car for 500K.

[msomnipotent]

Wow, what an awful experience! I'd have gotten rid of it, too. Thank you for sharing this. Subaru Outback is on my short list of daily drivers, but this info makes me re-think.

Yes, and that was just the last straw. There were all kinds of issues. It started to be a daily thing, like a chime going off every 5 minutes and no one knew what it was for. The GPS gave wrong directions so often that we just started using our phones instead. The paint chips if you look at it. I actually started to get anxiety every time I had to use the car. At least I didn't have the windows shatter for no reason or the doors not being able to close if you had more than one open. So many people had such odd issues. It was a 2015, which was a redesign year. I expected some issues, but this was just over the top and the dealership just could not care less. I heard the Crosstrek and Forester have similar complaints after their redesign, too. My JGC isn't perfect, but it is light years better in comfort and quality and the dealership goes out of their way to address issues.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Of course not. Most cars today will last at least 100K and typically 200K or more but how many people keep them that long. People are always shocked when we post a photo of our odometer turning 100K like it's some big deal. I used to have a coworkers who had a Corolla with over 300K on it and people thought she was nuts.

I doubt many people will keep any car for 500K.

I still miss my corolla. I swear that thing is probably still running great.

[JoeP]

Of course not. Most cars today will last at least 100K and typically 200K or more but how many people keep them that long. People are always shocked when we post a photo of our odometer turning 100K like it's some big deal. I used to have a coworkers who had a Corolla with over 300K on it and people thought she was nuts.

I doubt many people will keep any car for 500K.

I suspect a huge driver for turnover is leases. Also, gadgets! Right now, a lot of us buy a cell phone holder, USB cord, and USB charger to operate Waze or Google Maps. And who wouldn't opt for a car audio system that played from your phone seamlessly? Technology is a huge draw for some people.

[disneysteve]

I suspect a huge driver for turnover is leases.

True. A high percentage of luxury cars are leased. The higher the price, the higher the lease rate.

The other thing is that just because the motor might last 500K, that doesn’t mean the upholstery will or the carpets or the steering wheel or the body. when the car starts looking shabby, people will replace it.