Is Wake Up Now Club a scam?

[friends]

Both of you have no personal experience so anything you say is worthless. Only those of us who are doing it can truly know the truth. Why do you want to keep people from making more money than they ever dreamed of?

[William Thatch]

Can someone explain to me how you can know it's a scam if you haven't actually done it yourself? Is it really possible to be able to determine if something is good or bad just by looking at the literature? That doesn't give you a good understanding of what the business is all about. It's only when you participate that you can make that decision. So anyone who hasn't actually done the program, there opinion is useless and should be ignored. It's important to try it yourself and not let others who have no knowledge of wake up now trick you into not making a lot of money. They're just jealous because they don't understand what a great opportunity this is.

orly? check WUN's own IDS where it shows that a vast majority of people who do it don't make a dime. and in fact, i doubt it includes their initial monthly cost(s) so while it says they don't make any money, they likely LOSE money. "is it really possible to determine if something is good or bad just by looking at the literature?"

uhh, yeah, esp. when it tells you exactly what is happening with their business and the associated income distribution...or lack thereof.

i can't believe people still fall for this sort of thing like it's some revolutionary idea hahaha, i mean, it's sad...but also slightly comical. do some people make money? yeah, according to WUN's income disclosure statement that they are required to make available, a MINUTE percentage make some money. but if you have access to one of the few who truly make money (not some guy on facebook who keeps reposting a hub screenshot of some dude way up the chain), they will tell you it's a full time job and they most likely have compromised relationships over the harrassment they issue everyone within ear or keyboard shot. you end up spending more time, hassling MORE people than just taking the time to start your own pyramid "marketing opportunity" or trying time tested and proven entrepreneurial opportunities. become a manufacturer's rep...become a consultant...make real business connections...make a name for youself. don't by into this nonsense. it's been done before and it's always the same story.

[MikeSamps]

Re: Friends

Because you can know 2-3 hard-working, non-slacking individuals personally....spouse...brothers...cousin....close friend....who you know personally...who've invested the $100....and haven't seen a penny.

You can't count the people who you only know or have seen online saying they've made money.

But if you actually know multiple people who have invested and haven't made any money, that says something. They can't all be failures and horrible at network marketing. A couple are college educated....degreed. I've seen their hard-work 1st hand...and no tangible results...other than saving money....which you can do without investing hundreds. It can't be that the only people who have made money are people you don't know personally. It's not rocket science. If it walks like a duck...and talks like a duck....it's not a magical new unicorn...

[friends]

Can someone explain to me how you can know it's a scam if you haven't actually done it yourself? Is it really possible to be able to determine if something is good or bad just by looking at the literature? That doesn't give you a good understanding of what the business is all about. It's only when you participate that you can make that decision. So anyone who hasn't actually done the program, there opinion is useless and should be ignored. It's important to try it yourself and not let others who have no knowledge of wake up now trick you into not making a lot of money. They're just jealous because they don't understand what a great opportunity this is.

[WowJustWow]

Want to know if its a scam? How difficult is it to cancel your membership?

[SkysTheLimit1211]

Sky, I'm a WUN member but have had some issues with them as well. I'm curious to know how your experience with it was.

No problem what would you like to know? If you prefer to talk in private you can send me your email or something, I don't see a PM box anywhere

[William Thatch]

Still no data

no data? until Wakeupnow (WUN) apparently changed their income disclosure statement access rules in the last week or so, i provided hard data from the company itself (via their own income disclosure statement) that states a massive majority of people who join Wakeupnow (WUN) will make pennies...or nothing at all.

i am very interested to see why the link for that ids now requires a login. as far as i know that ids is supposed to be readily available to the public. maybe it's a matter of browser cookies or something. i'll try again tomorrow.

[KJ.]

Sooooooo. I can't keep it up. I've been stressed to high hell with the unethical nature of the company/business. The only way to sell memberships is by lying and selling false hopes, as THEY HAVE NO WHERE NEAR 100 dollars of value for what they offer.

I thought I could at least keep with it for a month, I'm sure I can get my 3 people, I have people asking me to sign up, but then what? I can't screw them over, and ask them to screw other people over.

I knew this would be bad but ugh, its disgusting, wasted 100 bucks, but at least I got my definitive answer.

ANYBODY OUT THERE READING! I wasted my hundred bucks, don't make the same mistake. If this post stops at least one person from joining, then I'll consider it worth the money. Please Please Please Please do not join, I did the experiment for you, SAVE YOUR MONEY. If you want any specific info then please message me or post here, just please don't waste your hard earned money. Thanks!

Sky, I'm a WUN member but have had some issues with them as well. I'm curious to know how your experience with it was.

[SkysTheLimit1211]

How about paying 0 dollars for the same benefits lol.

The entire vacation club is a sham, they are just an affiliate of third party clubs where you can sign up for free yourself. You can start your own wake up now for free and start charging others to join if you like, probably a better investment. Don't believe me? check the source code of the sites, you can see exactly where their "deals" come from.

I could have made money with the company, but I wouldn't sleep well. If you admit the products aren't worth 100 per month, and that people are selling the "opportunity", well that is a pyramid scheme. "No it's not, pyramid schemes don't have products, WUN does!" They really don't, it's just a thinly veiled disguise to differentiate itself legally, why do you think they started selling energy drinks recently? Even your upline will admit, you are supposed to sell the membership not the opportunity, because that would make it a pyramid scheme, since there is no value in the product, you're just left with the pyramid.

I'm not saying someone can't find value in the 25 dollar membership. But that's not what i'm reviewing, I was reviewing the "business opportunity'. For the life of the company, for everyone person making money,there will be 9 losing money. The "product" they receive for the money they lose isn't really a products, it's thin air disguised as a product, and therein lies the scam. thanks and goodnight


EDIT: Just waited on hold for 2 hours to cancel, got hung up on.

[RSinsights]

Same Song

Still no data just hyperbole and conjecture from both sides of the "discussion".. I will loosely call it a discussion although there is no actual discussing going on.

To Skysthelimit, what did you or didn't you use? If you were only looking to save money why on earth would you agree to pay $100 a month when you could pay $25 and get the same benefits or at least give it a try and risk 25% of your initial investment? This type of illogical decision from someone who is suggesting that they were conducting research seems odd frankly.

Anyone that is naive enough to think that any industry, and especially MLM's, are easy money are not going to do well in any field. MLM's tend to attract those who would rather dream than do so it is justly generalized that those involved tend towards this mentality.

Knowing that those who are eager to dream and far less likely to work explains typical MLM earnings ratios as a high percentage of those involved are just waiting for the money to start rolling in. The question is if this is the fault of the system or the fault of those involved. I say it's probably both. Those who structure MLM models are aware that their user base is heavily weighted with those who do not perform, it's not a big secret but that doesn't necessarily order a dismissal of the offering. Those who sign up to earn big money and assume it will be easy may as well walk into a engineers job and announce that they are ready to start designing stuff without any background or applicable skills.

Clearly a major difference between this particular company and many others is that they aren't selling magic fruit water from the amazon or magic beans that will help you live forever as most of the recent MLM organizations have built around. This company has revived the old school Amway, Mary Kay, Avon model where actual products are sold and distributed. This is a reflection of an older model where you would secure a store front and negotiate with companies to provide their products to the public which nobody has ever called a scam despite the markups and profit to the store.

All that being said clearly the company is in compliance so to suggest technically that it is a scam is ridiculous.

If however the suggestion is that it is misleading or it's promises are false, well that could be and may likely be correct. As I stated, in this model there tends to be many who are not data driven and are not particularly interested in hard numbers. Many use exaggeration as a baseline and go up from there this is why most won't produce documentation of actual earnings etc.

The point I am trying to make, and have tried to make previously, is this.... WUN is clearly not a scam but if you base decisions in your life on undocumented, third party, visionary data with no due diligence... you're gonna have a bad time.

I have outlined my experience and while I would never pay $100 a month or even close to that, I am fine with the product at $25 and it does provide enough value for me to keep paying it.

The product has provided value to my life.

Here are the brass tacks... everyone here it seems wants to express one extreme or the other nobody is being rational and looking at the actual model objectively... which is what everyone came here to read! (ATTN: Mods this was directed at you. I want an objective analysis of things from a site supposedly filled with people interested in savings not a texting match of extremes and shout downs) So objectively in my opinion, the product is a B grade product. It creates value but not a huge impact on my life. Opportunity grade is probably a D- if you are looking to recruit and build a "team" or whatever the hell they call it.

How's that word salad Bill?

[SkysTheLimit1211]

Sooooooo. I can't keep it up. I've been stressed to high hell with the unethical nature of the company/business. The only way to sell memberships is by lying and selling false hopes, as THEY HAVE NO WHERE NEAR 100 dollars of value for what they offer.

I thought I could at least keep with it for a month, I'm sure I can get my 3 people, I have people asking me to sign up, but then what? I can't screw them over, and ask them to screw other people over.

I knew this would be bad but ugh, its disgusting, wasted 100 bucks, but at least I got my definitive answer.

ANYBODY OUT THERE READING! I wasted my hundred bucks, don't make the same mistake. If this post stops at least one person from joining, then I'll consider it worth the money. Please Please Please Please do not join, I did the experiment for you, SAVE YOUR MONEY. If you want any specific info then please message me or post here, just please don't waste your hard earned money. Thanks!

[SkysTheLimit1211]

Well here's an update since joining.

If you are extremely lucky and have a good grasp on marketing you definitely can make some money with this, however you'll probably lose your soul in the process.

I've been in a little over a week, and have almost one person signing up. I feel like a total scumbag though, so, there's that.

[SmartMoneyDepot]

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck

[lorraineb]

Wake up now is a game changer!!

Well, if you mean "game changer" in the sense of every other mlm out there that always makes the exact same claim and then doesn't change anything, then I would have to agree with you.

[davianfrazier]

Wake up now is a game changer!!