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    Periodically, I've made mention of a feature article that was written years ago about me and my family and our frugal lifestyle. It was published in a national physician financial magazine. I mentioned it again in this thread: http://www.savingadvice.com/forums/p...ng-habits.html and a couple of people said they'd like to read it. I've never shared it before but it has been 10 years and I figure it's time. I just removed our last name and a couple of other identifying details.

    What prompted them to write this article was a letter I had written to the editor a few months earlier. They did a profile of another doctor and his wife where they reviewed their finances, listed their assets, liabilities, and expenses, and made suggestions. MONEY magazine does the same kind of thing every month. I wrote and said that it was blatantly clear why they were having financial difficulties. Their spending was out of control, living beyond their means and not adequately saving. I went on to say that my wife and I were almost 10 years younger and earned a bit less but were in far better shape due to how we choose to live, spend, and save. The editors were so impressed that they contacted me about doing this article. So here it is:

    How this young doctor keeps debt at bay
    Publish Date: MAR 05,2004

    This 39-year-old physician has school debt, a house, and a family—yet he's squirreled away more than $200,000.

    Family physician Steven G. is a happy camper.

    He's 39, he's paid off most of his medical school debt, and his savings are growing. He's on track to have college funds and retirement savings ready when he needs them—and that's on a salary of about $105,000.

    No, you won't find the Gs shopping at Neiman Marcus. "Some doctors drive fancier cars or live in bigger houses," says G. "We live below our means. But we don't feel deprived. We enjoy today, but we prepare for tomorrow."

    G has come a long way. He graduated medical school in 1990 with about $102,000 in medical school debt. When he married two years later, the newlyweds' joint assets totaled about $6,000. Now they're up to about $200,000, not including their house, cars, or collectibles.

    G, who started practicing in 1993, is an employee in a two-doctor urban office. He and wife, 40, a homemaker, and daughter, 8, live in a three-bedroom colonial in NJ.

    Other than a $10,000 gift from G's mother toward their down payment, Steve and M have built their own stash. And G predicts he'll be set for a comfortable retirement around age 62, after paying his daughter's college education.

    Determined to wipe out med school debt

    G vowed to wipe out his debts early on. In 1994, after he'd been in practice for a year, his Health Education Assistance Loans totaled about $62,000. That year, he started making extra principal payments (an additional $450 a month on top of the $225 due). Then, in 1999, he took out a home equity loan of $28,000 to pay off his car and part of his student loans. Those HEAL loans are down to about $11,000 now. The home equity loan has a $25,700 balance and 15 years left. "Once the HEAL loans are paid off, I'll have a chunk of money to put toward the home equity loan," he says. "I'll pay off all my debt way ahead of schedule."

    G also began saving early. "We started putting $50 a month via automatic deposit into our first mutual fund in 1992, and increased that amount as my income rose," he says. The account is now worth about $22,000. The Gs have since added other funds and investment accounts, IRAs, and a 529 plan. Currently, 13 percent of G's gross pay goes toward savings and investments. Some large financial goals are looming, and the Gs aim to be prepared. "Our daughter will have a Bat Mitzvah in about five years, which we expect will cost about $20,000," says G. "Five years later, she'll head for college."

    Rather than take a loan or charge the expenses, G plans to save for both the Bat Mitzvah and college. "The 529 plan we started last July now has about $3,000," he says. "Once my HEAL loans are paid off, I'll redirect some of that money into the 529. I expect to have about $75,000 by the time she starts college."

    The Gs do use charge cards, but refuse to carry a balance. That keeps them from spending beyond their means, and from throwing away money on interest charges. "Credit cards can be the bane of existence for many people," he says. "We can't see spending first and then paying off; we save first, and then pay for what we want."

    Despite their frugality, the Gs don't neglect charitable giving. "We donate money and volunteer our time and services to our synagogue, and support our local public television station and my undergraduate college," he says. They also donate old clothes, toys, books, and household items to Purple Heart Veterans, Goodwill, and other causes.

    Taking frugality as a way of life

    What's G's secret? Attitude.

    "We are not into status items, and we're not upgrade happy; once we buy something we stay with it," he says. "But we don't feel like we're sacrificing. M and I enjoy our lifestyle."
    The Gs will buy top quality items that are important to them. "We both love to cook, so we have Calphalon pots and pans, and KitchenAid appliances," he says. "We also have an extensive collection of Walt Disney memorabilia, and have spent thousands of dollars on it over the years. They're obviously not necessities. For things we don't consider a big deal, we buy something functional," he adds.

    Take cars, for instance. The Gs own two that they bought used: a 1998 Toyota Camry LE and a 2000 Toyota Sienna LE minivan. "The Camry was a dealer demo, and had 11,000 miles on it when we bought it," he said. "I plan to keep it for another five to seven years." The minivan was two years old when they bought it last year.

    "Our living room has had the same old furniture and IKEA bookshelves for the past 10 years, interspersed with some new pieces," he says. "Our house is nice, but it's not a mansion." The Gs intend to stay in their current home, although they may remodel or add on to create more space.
    Finding bargains and getting the best prices also help the Gs' saving campaign. "We shop carefully," he says. "We buy some food items at Target because they're cheaper than at the supermarket. We'll pick up things at yard sales or thrift shops. Especially when my daughter was young. Why pay full price for overalls that she'll wear for three months, when you can get them for $1 at a thrift shop?"

    The Gs take out novels from the library rather than buy them at bookstores, although they purchase reference books new. The family usually eats at home. "We prepare most meals from scratch. It's healthier and cheaper than dining out." And the Gs don't pay for any household help.

    Vacations also reflect the Gs' stretch-your-dollar philosophy. They spend at least one week a year in Disney World, "but we stay at a $39-a-night motel two miles from the park, rather than on-site, where it could cost several times as much," he says. This year, they spent another week in Massachusetts. "We stayed at a Marriott using Rewards Points earned on our charge card."

    But they also splurged. "One weekend last year, for our anniversary, we stayed at a luxury hotel in New York, ate at fancy restaurants, and went to a Broadway show," says G.

    Steve and M have a crucial advantage: They have similar attitudes toward saving. "There's no way we could have accomplished what we did if one of us was a spender and the other a saver," he says. "We can't think of a single instance where either one of us wanted to blow money on something ridiculous and had to be talked out of it."

    No financial advisers need apply

    The Gs don't use a financial adviser. "We got a financial analysis done twice—in 1996 and in 2001—by our insurance broker," says G. "The most recent one showed a very small projected shortfall for our anticipated retirement needs. But we identified the factors that will correct that gap in the near future. It mainly involved repaying my student loans and having that money for additional investing.

    "I'm proud to say that our broker was quite impressed," adds G. "In fact, he ended up telling me that I was overinsured, and he actually reduced my life insurance coverage by $250,000. It's not often you hear an insurance salesman telling you to buy less insurance!"

    While the market slump of the past few years zapped G, he's not sweating. "The market correction had a big impact on paper, since we keep about 80 percent of our portfolio in equities," says G. "But that decline came after a huge run-up, so we're still way ahead of where we started, and the recent recovery has erased much of the paper losses."

    Thanks to the Gs' philosophy, they're certain they'll be comfortable later in life. "We figure that it will be much easier to live a modest lifestyle after retirement because we're not living extravagantly today," says Steve. "We hope to live at least as well, if not better—more travel, theater, fine dining. We want to enjoy retirement, not spend it struggling to get by on a tiny nest egg."

    2002 Total income $105,000
    Adjustments
    Income taxes $27,100
    Property taxes 4,600
    Pre-tax contributions to savings and investments 0
    Total adjustments 31,700

    Total spendable income $73,300
    Expenditures
    Housing (including mortgage payments utilities, and maintenance) $16,000
    Loan and debt repayment 7,000
    After-tax contributions to savings and investments 14,400
    Food and dining out 5,000
    Insurance (Life and disability) 5,900
    Autos (gas, repairs, insurance) 5,500
    Vacations 6,000
    Hobbies and entertainment 2,000
    Medical and dental expenses 3,500
    Clothing 1,800
    Charitable contributions and gifts 3,500
    Miscellaneous 2,700
    Total expenditures $73,300
    Steve

    * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
    * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

  • #2
    It's great that you are living below your means and I enjoyed the article, but how can you be a Jewish Disney enthusiast? Isn't that like being a gay republican or a christian scientist? I'm just being facetious, but do you have any thoughts on the matter? I've read a couple articles lately about the Mr Banks/Mary Poppins movie coming out that say a lot of that stuff was overblown.

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    • #3
      What a nice article. Very complimentary to you and the Mrs. Thanks for sharing it.

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      • #4
        That's awesome! Definitely captures alot of the philosophy that you've always given here on the forums.

        wow... we have a star in our midst.

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        • #5
          Thanks for sharing.

          How close were you to your estimate of having $75,000 in your daughter's 529?
          Brian

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kork13 View Post
            Definitely captures alot of the philosophy that you've always given here on the forums.
            The right way to do things never really changes. What worked for us 10+ years ago works just as well today. Thanks to having these habits from early on, we don't need to be quite as frugal today but we still live well below our means and do most of what was written about in this article.
            Steve

            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
              Thanks for sharing.

              How close were you to your estimate of having $75,000 in your daughter's 529?
              Good question. Not as close as I had hoped. Right now, the account stands at $56,474. Between now and September when she starts college, we will contribute another $2,400 which will put us around $58,874 plus whatever the account earns between now and then, so probably around $60,000.

              Of course, other savings has occurred that I didn't anticipate back then. My wife went back to work at one job where she had a 403b and then another job where she had a 401k with a company match so she accumulated thousands of dollars in retirement accounts (I don't have numbers with me) that we didn't know would happen.
              Steve

              * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
              * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
              * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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              • #8
                Excellent article - I hope it helped people!

                But it's also kind of sad and almost shocking.

                No offense meant, Steve, but it's not like there was anything groundbreaking. Nothing terribly surprising. Nothing that doesn't seem like common sense. It's a shame that you are the exception among doctors rather than the rule. I guess it goes to show that being smart and educated doesn't mean you know how to handle your own finances.

                Live below your means. Save for the future. Don't live your life on credit. Don't waste money trying to make money. Does this really surprise people?

                Maybe I'm just lucky that I grew up in a household with a family that lived like this. We had nice things - nice enough, at least - and my dad had a good job and my mom subbed, but he didn't make a fortune and we were solidly middle class.

                But Dad planned well and was able to retire at 52 and now in their late 60s his and my mom's investments are growing faster than they can spend them. That's what I want to do, and he was a great role model.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the very interesting article Steve. I printed it out for my son to read.

                  It is always very hard to look long term ahead as you never know what is going to happen. But if you plan and are cautious during the 'fat' times, when the lean times hit you will be better off. For instance if two guys worked for the same company making the same amount, same family size etc., got laid off. One has a too much house, too much car, too much cc debt, too little savings and the other has a more modest house with a much lower mortgage, a paid off car, no cc debt, fully funded retirement savings and a full emergency fund, who is going to survive a 1 year lay off better? The guy that can't handle his money in the first place so in desperation latches on to 'quick and easy' money making schemes, or the other guy with savings which between that and his unemployment, gets him easily through the year and allows him to job hunt without stress, perhaps start that part time job he has thought about, etc. Eventually, of course, even his money will run out if he doesn't get a job, but he and his family who are used to living on less than they make will have ridden out the experience in a much easier way.

                  I've heard of people that refuse to buy long or short term disability through their jobs even though those are incredibly cheap policies to have. Their feeling is they are never sick so illness/health accident won't be a problem for them. I am so glad I had short term disability when I got sick and it took close to a year to diagnosis me. Having checks coming in that were bigger than normal take home checks (due to no taxes or other withheld amounts) helped us keep our financial act together during that period.

                  Life has a way of throwing curve balls and it seems to send most of them to the unprepared!
                  Gailete
                  http://www.MoonwishesSewingandCrafts.com

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                  • #10
                    Great article Steve glad you can share it with us.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BuckyBadger View Post
                      Excellent article - I hope it helped people!

                      But it's also kind of sad and almost shocking.

                      No offense meant, Steve, but it's not like there was anything groundbreaking.
                      No offense taken. I agree 100%. Everything I said in that article is everything that I still say here at SA day after day. If everyone would follow some very simple, basic rules, this country would be in far, far better shape. It really isn't rocket science to live within your means.
                      Steve

                      * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                      * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                      * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                      • #12
                        I do like your "attitude". I have worked for physicians in the past (that like you) were very wise with money not letting the expectations of others influence their lifestyles. I once worked for a doctor who's income was meager compared to his Orthopedic surgeon friends. He purchased a big house and lived without furniture because his address had a social status. He lived far beyond his means and often couldn't make payroll. Very sad indeed.

                        Thanks for the inspiration

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for sharing DS. Nice article. Common sense goes a long way...
                          “Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it … he who doesn’t … pays it.”

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                          • #14
                            Very impressive Steve. It may seem like common sense to the people on this forum but there are so many out there who don't get it.

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                            • #15
                              Perfect I love it. It's just dead on how to live a pretty normal life without being "frugal". You just live within your means and it seems to work out.
                              LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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