Are ebikes "worth" it?

[QuarterMillionMan]

Class 3 e-bikes are high-performance electric bicycles that provide pedal assistance up to 28 mph, making them ideal for experienced cyclists and commuters. What is a Class 3 E-Bike?

Class 3 e-bikes, also known as speed pedelecs, are designed to assist riders with varying levels of pedal assistance, allowing speeds of up to 28 mph (45 km/h). Unlike Class 1 and Class 2 e-bikes, Class 3 e-bikes do not have a throttle option; the motor only engages when the rider is pedaling. Once the speed reaches 28 mph, the motor assistance cuts off, and any further acceleration relies solely on the rider's effort.

eBicycles+1 Key Features of Class 3 E-Bikes

• Speed: Maximum assisted speed of 28 mph.
• Pedal Assist: Motor assistance is activated only while pedaling.
• Power: Typically limited to 750W in the U.S., ensuring compliance with regulations.
• Usage: Best suited for road riding and commuting, often restricted from bike paths and trails in many areas.
  
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Benefits of Class 3 E-Bikes

• Efficiency: Ideal for commuting longer distances quickly.
• Performance: Higher speeds make them suitable for experienced cyclists looking for a more dynamic riding experience.
• Versatility: Many models come equipped with features like LCD screens, powerful brakes, and robust battery systems for extended range.
  
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Recommended Class 3 E-Bikes

1. Trek Allant+ 8s: Known for its high-quality components, this e-bike features a Bosch Performance Speed mid-drive motor, providing excellent acceleration and a range of over 60 miles per charge. It is equipped with fenders, a rear rack, and lights, making it perfect for commuting[^^6^^].
   
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2. Ride1UP 700 Series: This model offers great value with a powerful 750W motor and a range of 30-50 miles. It is designed for comfort and performance on various terrains, making it a solid choice for budget-conscious riders[^^6^^].
   
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3. Gazelle Ultimate C380: A premium option with a top speed of 28 mph, this e-bike is designed for comfort and efficiency, featuring a lightweight frame and high-capacity battery[^^6^^].
   
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Regulations and Considerations

• Age Restrictions: Many states require riders of Class 3 e-bikes to be at least 16 years old.
• Helmet Laws: Some regions mandate helmet use for Class 3 riders, so it's essential to check local regulations before riding.
  
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• Path Restrictions: Class 3 e-bikes may be prohibited on certain bike paths and trails, so understanding local laws is crucial for safe riding.
  
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  Class 3 e-bikes offer a thrilling and efficient way to travel, especially for those who enjoy cycling at higher speeds. With various models available, riders can find one that suits their needs and preferences. Always ensure to check local regulations to enjoy a safe riding experience.

[disneysteve]

I see that NJ just passed the strictest e-bike regulations in the country.

All motorized bicycles are now classified as e-bikes including those with pedals and a motor.
Owner operators must be at least 17 with a valid driver's license or 15 with a motorized bicycle license.
Operators need to be licensed, registered, and insured.

I think this is a good step. I hope they enforce it and get all of the e-bikes off the sidewalk and issue citations for not following traffic laws.

[ua_guy]

I see that NJ just passed the strictest e-bike regulations in the country.

All motorized bicycles are now classified as e-bikes including those with pedals and a motor.
Owner operators must be at least 17 with a valid driver's license or 15 with a motorized bicycle license.
Operators need to be licensed, registered, and insured.

I think this is a good step. I hope they enforce it and get all of the e-bikes off the sidewalk and issue citations for not following traffic laws.

That's strict. But probably a needed measure. This is what happens when folks don't exhibit consideration for others, that kind of mentality gives birth to regulation.

[ua_guy]

Welp, bike arrived yesterday. The shop did an amazing job with delivery. It came UPS. Well packaged, almost fully assembled. They included tools and a torque wrench and detailed instructions for final assembly. It took an hour to get set up: 20 minutes to unpack and finish assembly (handle bars, front wheel, seat post, pedals), and 40 minutes of reading and tinkering: Adjusting the settings, pairing the app, registering the bike, setting tire pressure, suspension, getting ready to ride.

My first ride was on a gravel rail trail. Wow! It's been a long time since I've ridden a bike for exercise, and I was able to knock out 40 minutes of cardio. Most of the time I kept it in "eco" mode, but increased the power for hills so I didn't get totally winded. That was fun.

The saddle is pretty narrow and hard, so I was worried about saddle soreness while I get used to riding again. I bought a slip-on cover, $20 (Rockbros?) that adds some padding. It really helped. I'm not sore at all today.

[bjl584]

I have an old school bike in my basement. Haven't rode it in years. The last time that I regularly biked was pre-16 (pre car ownership and driver's license)
An E-bike wouldn't be worth it to me.
I'd have to venture onto some dangerous winding rural roads to get anywhere.
There is a walking trail close to me, but E-bikes are banned. Walk or regular bikes only.

So, in my situation, an E-bike isn't worth it.

[Fishindude77]

Welp, bike arrived yesterday. The shop did an amazing job with delivery. It came UPS. Well packaged, almost fully assembled. They included tools and a torque wrench and detailed instructions for final assembly. It took an hour to get set up: 20 minutes to unpack and finish assembly (handle bars, front wheel, seat post, pedals), and 40 minutes of reading and tinkering: Adjusting the settings, pairing the app, registering the bike, setting tire pressure, suspension, getting ready to ride.

My first ride was on a gravel rail trail. Wow! It's been a long time since I've ridden a bike for exercise, and I was able to knock out 40 minutes of cardio. Most of the time I kept it in "eco" mode, but increased the power for hills so I didn't get totally winded. That was fun.

The saddle is pretty narrow and hard, so I was worried about saddle soreness while I get used to riding again. I bought a slip-on cover, $20 (Rockbros?) that adds some padding. It really helped. I'm not sore at all today.

Cool !
Keep an eye on your tire pressure. Keeping tires fully inflated makes a significant difference in your overall range.
After you've used it some report on how many miles you can go before your battery is getting pretty low (25% or less).

Simple enough deal to replace seat with a better, more padded one.

[QuarterMillionMan]

To me an ebike represents "freedom" to go to places that you never would have thought possible by walking or by car. Ebikes bridges that gap. For instance, 2 weeks ago I dropped off my car to be repaired at an auto body shop in Gardena which is 5 miles away. I could have caught Uber/Lyft back home for $35 but instead I rode my ebike back home. Someone rear-end my car during official business at work so my work reimburses me for the $8000 repair. Hope I get my car back at the end of this week.

[disneysteve]

That's strict. But probably a needed measure. This is what happens when folks don't exhibit consideration for others, that kind of mentality gives birth to regulation.

I didn't read all of the details but I believe the push for tighter regulation was prompted by a couple of high profile pediatric deaths. There are a lot of kids running around on e-bikes and they really shouldn't be. So now, legally at least, they must be at least 15 and get a license.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

I didn't read all of the details but I believe the push for tighter regulation was prompted by a couple of high profile pediatric deaths. There are a lot of kids running around on e-bikes and they really shouldn't be. So now, legally at least, they must be at least 15 and get a license.

this i agree. i think it's like kids who are dying

[ua_guy]

Update…I ’ve been getting out when the weather isn’t raining, couple times per week and trying to do more. 20-30 minutes at a time to break in my saddle…on the saddle.

I really like this thing. I’ve got about 30 miles on it. Some hilly terrain, some single track, and some rail trail. I try to keep the motor off as much as possible to keep my heart rate up and only engage the drive motor to help me push through hills and a few sprints for fun. Haven’t needed to charge it yet. Started at 80% charge and it’s down to 56% now…

It’s definitely not a nimble hardtail for XC trail riding but it does it. It’s pretty heavy and the fork is sprung for weight, but it’s pretty awesome for everything else.

[QuarterMillionMan]

Went to Santa Monica beach today and just before arriving my rear brakes gave out which was not the cable breaking but the caliper itself which often happens. I always have another new caliper assembly at home so I rode with extra caution knowing I had to rely only on front brakes which is very dangerous. Upon returning home I changed the brakes. Good as new but cheap $7 Temu F180/R160 doesn't have good stopping power. Ebay not much better, I remember getting a Bolids brand about $13 but junk as well. Every 6 months brakes needs changing so I should pay more for good brakes such as Shimano but $120 for brakes is quite expensive. This is the old broken brakes.

[disneysteve]

Good as new but cheap $7 Temu F180/R160 doesn't have good stopping power.

Brakes are definitely not something I would be buying on Temu.

[ua_guy]

Never had a set of Shimano brakes fail. I've got a set of Shimano hydraulic disc brakes on my e-bike as well as my hardtail. I've had the hardtail for 5 years now and the brakes are still amazing.

Buy once, cry once.

[kork13]

Never had a set of Shimano brakes fail. I've got a set of Shimano hydraulic disc brakes on my e-bike as well as my hardtail. I've had the hardtail for 5 years now and the brakes are still amazing. Buy once, cry once.

Exactly. I’ve had my road bike for over 15 years, equipped with Shimano 105 (mid-grade) components …. Never needed to replace the brakes (though they’re finally starting to show their age), or almost any other component on the bike. Quality does matter, and for something tied directly to your safety, it’s absolutely NOT something that I would cheap out on.

[ua_guy]

Can always jam a shoe between the tire and chain stay if you need to stop a bicycle with no brakes. Anyone do that as a kid?

Hope the shoes didn't come from Temu.

I looked up the model of brakes on my bikes, they're both the same.

Shimano BR-MT200, hydraulic disc, 180mm rotors. They're a standard size, pretty basic (considered entry-level). But they're built well and they are hydraulic, not cable-actuated, so you get the benefit of nicer systems with very good modulation and full stopping power without needing too much force on the lever.