In your state how much is medical or recreation marijuana?

[rennigade]

Thats entirely correct. Its especially pronounced with long term methamphetamine users.

Would you say there's a difference between meth and cannabis?

[disneysteve]

For marijuana, specifically? I've read the studies about lower dopamine levels. Not seeing the kind of irreversible damage caused by meth and other immediately destructive drugs. And, if a long term user were to discontinue marijuana use, is it possible to restore dopamine levels and normal function?

I haven't studied this in any detail but those two articles posted above say the damage is likely reversible and that studies on former users show normal levels. I guess the question is if there can be long-term changes from chronic use. Also, starting young is a big concern since the brain isn't fully developed until around age 25 so drug-related injury in the teens might cause permanent changes if it interferes with normal development.

[disneysteve]

I agree that different drugs or things affect people differently. There are those who react really bad to cannabis. But, its the minority, not the majority. I know people who will have a really bad day if they eat peanuts.

I'm not sure what relevance a peanut allergy has here.

Marijuana decreases dopamine levels. That's not an allergy. It's a direct effect of the compound. Decreased dopamine alters mood and behavior.

[QuarterMillionMan]

Would you say there's a difference between meth and cannabis?

I would say it's a big difference between meth (chemically man-made) and marijuana (naturally grown). Meth is way more dangerous.

[rennigade]

The most important take away from legalization of drugs is to talk about how drugs should remain illegal while sipping on an alcoholic beverage and smoking a cigar.

[Like2Plan]

The most important take away from legalization of drugs is to talk about how drugs should remain illegal while sipping on an alcoholic beverage and smoking a cigar.

I really can't recommend one over the other... That reminds me. We have had a very effective campaign to reduce cigarette smoking because we discovered it isn't all that good for you.... And, now we have Vaping. In candy flavored varieties. Who do you think the target audience is for that?

[riverwed070707]

But, even that isn't the biggest heartburn I have regarding the push for legalization these days. Now, you have to worry as to whether your food is going to be adulterated with the substance in a restaurant and you have to worry about children accidentally ingesting it (as it often available in candy like items). It is a big business that I never dreamed of 45 years ago. And, I think the overarching goal is to increase sales and profits.

This is not differentthanregulating alcohol... except that the dangers are less. Alcohol can kill a child the first time they use it. No kids are dying from accidental or excessive marijuana use. I can respect that some people don't agree that it should be legalized but fear of children getting ahold of it? Please. I'd let my kid go to an irresponsible pot owners house over an irresponsible gun owners house or an alcoholics for that matter.

[ua_guy]

But, even that isn't the biggest heartburn I have regarding the push for legalization these days. Now, you have to worry as to whether your food is going to be adulterated with the substance in a restaurant and you have to worry about children accidentally ingesting it (as it often available in candy like items). It is a big business that I never dreamed of 45 years ago. And, I think the overarching goal is to increase sales and profits.

I'm trying to remember the last time I was worried about someone putting marijuana in my food at a restaurant. No, that's not how any of this works.

If you don't lock up your alcohol at home, just assume your kids will eventually get curious enough to try it. Maybe a lot of it. Why anyone would leave alcohol accessible to children is incomprehensible, especially if you regularly demonstrate that you drink it, in front of children. Same goes with marijuana.

[Like2Plan]

I'm trying to remember the last time I was worried about someone putting marijuana in my food at a restaurant. No, that's not how any of this works.

This is actually a new trend- where it is legal. The other thing I have seen is CBD in everything from anti-aging cream to analgesic cream. CBD is the answer to your every ailment.

If you don't lock up your alcohol at home, just assume your kids will eventually get curious enough to try it. Maybe a lot of it. Why anyone would leave alcohol accessible to children is incomprehensible, especially if you regularly demonstrate that you drink it, in front of children. Same goes with marijuana.

I think you are missing the point. Alcohol doesn't necessarily "taste" good. But, I am not an advocate for alcohol, either. I am not talking about a kid going out of their way to "try" it because they are curious. I am talking about kids getting into it because they don't know the difference. And, yes, there are kids who have eaten brownies laced with marijuana-- not because they wanted to try weed. And, gummy bears and so on. Just like getting into baby aspirin.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/cannabis-edibles-health-risks

https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/news/20190409/marijuana-edibles-buyers-and-users-beware

This is big business.

[Like2Plan]

This is not differentthanregulating alcohol... except that the dangers are less. Alcohol can kill a child the first time they use it. No kids are dying from accidental or excessive marijuana use. I can respect that some people don't agree that it should be legalized but fear of children getting ahold of it? Please. I'd let my kid go to an irresponsible pot owners house over an irresponsible gun owners house or an alcoholics for that matter.

Thanks--now, I have to worry about irresponsible pot owners, too. I honestly don't know how I feel about the legalization part at this point. But, what is being legalized is a lot bigger thing than someone just occasionally smoking a joint (or making some brownies).

[ua_guy]

This is actually a new trend- where it is legal. The other thing I have seen is CBD in everything from anti-aging cream to analgesic cream. CBD is the answer to your every ailment.




I think you are missing the point. Alcohol doesn't necessarily "taste" good. But, I am not an advocate for alcohol, either. I am not talking about a kid going out of their way to "try" it because they are curious. I am talking about kids getting into it because they don't know the difference. And, yes, there are kids who have eaten brownies laced with marijuana-- not because they wanted to try weed. And, gummy bears and so on. Just like getting into baby aspirin.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/cannabis-edibles-health-risks

https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/news/20190409/marijuana-edibles-buyers-and-users-beware

This is big business.

I don't think your fears are irrational or wrong. My point is that most fears are relative given other permissible and widely available substances and vices, and some are unfounded, like a restaurant putting marijuana in your food. But I can totally appreciate not wanting to add another widely available substance of abuse, whether it's more or less harmful than anything else currently out there.

I think the point is, if you don't want kids to eat it, don't keep it around your kids. There has to be some common sense, in the same way you wouldn't pour liquor into water bottles and stick them in the fridge with actual bottles of water. Edibles aren't something one should leave sitting around in a candy dish, nor store with other candy which may look similar. In our state, the packing required for edibles is required to be extremely frustrating to open specifically for this purpose. But also, don't keep it around kids, treat it like the substance that it is: A powerful drug. The vast majority of adults are responsible.

[moneybags]

I can buy a 20 pack of marijuana gummies for $33 (includes sales tax). I use them to get a good night's sleep, as needed. I'd rather eat a marijuana gummy than take an Ambien. I started out eating a quarter of a gummy and increased it based on my tolerance/reaction. I feel like it is similar to liquor and have no problem with it being legal.

[disneysteve]

I started out eating a quarter of a gummy

I don't understand why they don't package the products in a more dose-sensitive way. 1/4 of a gummy? 1/30th of a brownie? That's just asking for trouble. Why not package the product in single dose form?

[bjl584]

I have no idea what it costs.
Alcohol is my only vice.

[moneybags]

I don't understand why they don't package the products in a more dose-sensitive way. 1/4 of a gummy? 1/30th of a brownie? That's just asking for trouble. Why not package the product in single dose form?

The gummies are definitely dose-sensitive; the package indicated the dosage. I only cut it up because I had not taken edibles before, and I wanted to be conservative.