iOS or Android?

[Snicks]

At least the two things I mentioned are perfectly intuitive on iOS. If you want to set up a group text, you open a new message and enter each contact that you want to include. Then you type and send your message. I'm not sure how else you could do that. I just took a quick look (I didn't scroll all the way back) and I have at least 9 group messages that I use fairly regularly.

And for copying and pasting, you just put the cursor wherever you want to paste so that's pretty straightforward too.

I don't find that it inserts where the cursor is . Type a partial message on your phone as if you are sending a text. Then go copy something and try to insert it. It plops it in the middle of the text even if the cursor is blinking at the end of the text. At least that is what happens on my Iphone 11. I find it annoying that i have to think so much about a copy/paste. Also when I am trying to pull down longer text, it often will not pull the larger text in. I just find it irritating.

[disneysteve]

I don't find that it inserts where the cursor is . Type a partial message on your phone as if you are sending a text. Then go copy something and try to insert it. It plops it in the middle of the text even if the cursor is blinking at the end of the text. At least that is what happens on my Iphone 11.

It works fine for me, but I don't have an 11, not that that should matter. So if you put the cursor at the end at hit Paste it doesn't go where the cursor is? I would definitely have that checked out at the Apple store. That's certainly not how it's supposed to work. Also, make sure that your software is up to date just in case it was a bug that got corrected.

[~bs]

What I'm really waiting for is Apple & Android (& service providers) to all finally get on board with Rich Communication Services (RCS) chat messaging protocol in lieu of SMS/MMS, or at least become compatible with one another. As Snicks referred to, it would allow for universal read receipts, as well as high-resolution images, video, audio, end-to-end encryption, Wi-Fi messaging, and so on. Right now it's all only app based, and not cross-compatible... iPhones all do it among iPhones on iMessage, and Androids using Android Messages can opt into it, and apps like FB Messenger, Signal, and WhatsApp all do it within their apps. But until everyone gets on the same page, it'll remain insular....

Highly unlikely to happen. Competing platforms, they want their own hardware/software to be used. Just look at the cables. android adopts latest USB standard, while apple has its own. Blu-ray vs hd-dvd, xbox vs ps etc. Only way you see one standard is if one dies off.

[amarowsky]

Up until basically now... I have always been pretty hard lean to Android.

Android Pro:
1) Much higher power phone for the price.
2) Many more applications & developers with Android (at least for what I use phones for)
3) Tons of more options (customize GUI, operating systems, etc..)

Android Con:
****Offers NOTHING to stop un-authorized data theft (I don't consider small print signatures, honest "authorization", albiet "legal").
**Can be "buggy" at times. But as this has been my primary phone... no issues enough to make me change. (barely and issue)


Apple Pro:
1) User choice to save privacy and not give data to companies to sell.
2) High Quality Phones

Apple Con:
1) Lower tech phone
2) Higher cost (about 30-40% higher cost for my type of desired phone)
3) little customization options (unless you are hobby tech dude)



Because Android has chosen not to value their customers choice of privacy protection. I will be switching to IOS for my 1st time in my life. (Plus I bought my 1st Ipad like 2 years ago, and it really did impress me w/ the quality). Should Android chose to make an option to protect my privacy before the next good Iphone opportunity arises, I'll stay w/ android. As of now, I just don't want to support companies who mine and sell my data (I don't really care about the data.... it's the principle, and I think it's wise to not support this type of manufacturing until they fix the product).

[LivingAlmostLarge]

i am annoyed wtih every kid i know with an ipad because they even have different chargers depending on generation and come over and ask for a cable. Luckily we have the most recent charging cable for DH's work but otherwise most of the time our friends even are SOL when they come over and want to borrow a charger for their iphones.

Because every other android is on usb C standard but iphones are too good for that.

[ua_guy]

We're on the Apple ecosystem here. Have been iOS users since iPhone came out. Have had my parents on Apple devices for the last 10 years as well.

The two biggest things for us...well, 3. The first and foremost is iOS is less vulnerable to security threats. That helps reason #2, which is, significantly (like 99%) less support burden for my parents. Whereas before we were constantly having issues with contacts, email, apps, photos, and portability for all those things, we don't anymore because the apple ecosystem was designed to bridge that gap. The last is....my husband and I do "tech" for a living, and for his job, Apple is what the corporation uses. I used to be crazy about hardware specs for personal devices and I just don't care. I finish my job for the day and the first thing I want to do is turn off tech. Don't want to think about it, configure it, troubleshoot it, on my time, the devices need to be able to behave themselves and I've never had that experience with an Android.

[disneysteve]

most of the time our friends even are SOL when they come over and want to borrow a charger for their iphones.

Who goes out without their phone charger? I always have one in my car and in my work bag. My wife always has one in her purse. And if I'm going somewhere without her, I make sure I've got one in my pocket.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

We're on the Apple ecosystem here. Have been iOS users since iPhone came out. Have had my parents on Apple devices for the last 10 years as well.

The two biggest things for us...well, 3. The first and foremost is iOS is less vulnerable to security threats. That helps reason #2, which is, significantly (like 99%) less support burden for my parents. Whereas before we were constantly having issues with contacts, email, apps, photos, and portability for all those things, we don't anymore because the apple ecosystem was designed to bridge that gap. The last is....my husband and I do "tech" for a living, and for his job, Apple is what the corporation uses. I used to be crazy about hardware specs for personal devices and I just don't care. I finish my job for the day and the first thing I want to do is turn off tech. Don't want to think about it, configure it, troubleshoot it, on my time, the devices need to be able to behave themselves and I've never had that experience with an Android.

I just won't spend that much on devices for my kids. I find it insane to spend $1500 for a laptop for kids if not more. Or to spend $500 for an ipad versus a $49 kindle I just bought for the kiddos. Good enough.

[JoeP]

I started with an Android probably 8 years ago and found the interface to be much more intuitive to me. I've tried to use my family's iPhones, but it was honestly a struggle to figure out how to do basic things. I don't remember the exact situation, but I couldn't figure out how to switch to another app. I think the solution was a swipe or a triple click. With Android, there are dedicated icons at the bottom: back, home, tasks. With iPhone, it is usually at the top left, which is out of the way when you're typing near the bottom. I really like the sync of applications, data, pictures, place in a book, etc with Google on Android...it's perfectly seamless. Like others, I struggled HARD trying to get their iCloud and iTunes products to work...it always wanted to do a destructive sync instead of a friendly additive one. I'm not sure if Apple solved this, but it used to be the case that you couldn't simply drag files to and from the phone when plugged into a PC.

Cables and connectors aside, cost is the biggest factor for me. I can't imagine paying close to $1000 for a device that will give me maybe 5 years of service. Android gives consumers the choice over hundreds of phone models from various vendors: features, price, quality, expansion, size...with Apple your choices are much more limited and almost always more costly.

I'll hand it to Apple. They found a way to entice people to pay what they do for their phones.

[disneysteve]

I just won't spend that much on devices for my kids. I find it insane to spend $1500 for a laptop for kids if not more. Or to spend $500 for an ipad versus a $49 kindle I just bought for the kiddos. Good enough.

I agree with this. I'm amazed by how many people I see just letting their little ones play with their own phone. And I mean babies in strollers holding Mom's iPhone. I'm not putting any device that cost hundreds of dollars into a child's hands.

[ua_guy]

I just won't spend that much on devices for my kids. I find it insane to spend $1500 for a laptop for kids if not more. Or to spend $500 for an ipad versus a $49 kindle I just bought for the kiddos. Good enough.

Totally makes sense - as you know, my perspective is sometimes different because I have no kids. When device expenditure needs to double or triple to supply kids with devices as well, it would make sense to go with cheaper devices or platforms. Although, I'm an advocate of supplying kids with all technology, *where there's interest.

In my experience, iOS and OS really makes sense for older generations. My parents are part of that subset that became technology consumers and end-users in the last 15 years since they retired, and they have almost zero concept of internet security. Mac/OS/iOS isn't foolproof, but it really helps having them in a somewhat contained ecosystem of software and device, as well as on the same platform as me so I am not supporting different instances of hardware and software.

[disneysteve]

In my experience, iOS and OS really makes sense for older generations. My parents are part of that subset that became technology consumers and end-users in the last 15 years since they retired, and they have almost zero concept of internet security. Mac/OS/iOS isn't foolproof, but it really helps having them in a somewhat contained ecosystem of software and device, as well as on the same platform as me so I am not supporting different instances of hardware and software.

Totally.

My mom had a PC laptop for a few years. We bought it for her because we wanted something cheap. She constantly had problems with it and I was constantly having to take it home and clean it up.

A year or so ago we bought her a used Macbook. It was several years old but in perfectly functional shape for what she needs it for. She couldn't be happier and wonders why we didn't get her one earlier. She very rarely has any trouble with it and when she does, it's usually a simple fix that I can walk her through over the phone (no small feat for a 90-year-old woman).

Had I thought about a used Apple originally, I never would have gotten the PC. I had only been thinking of buying new and couldn't justify the price difference but the used one was only a bit more than a new PC but worth every penny.