how much have you paid for a car and what would you pay for a car?

[disneysteve]

But I don't get how anyone following his mantra of living simply which I think is great to be honest and justify that sort of car?

I agree. If you are following a hard core frugal lifestyle, you don't spend 40-50K on your car. That's not a frugal thing to do. There's nothing wrong with buying one if you can afford it and value the product. Go right ahead. But it's a luxury purchase for sure.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

I was just reading MMM blogs and I had to post something that struck me. Okay so I get tesla are environmentally friendly. The cheapest where I live would be $43k without any bells and whistles after taxes I believe. But something I didn't get is how can you live so simply but justify ever buying a tesla? I mean that car would be many people's 1-2 year living budget? I get you spend money on what you love, I'm a big spender on traveling, but I am not a frugalite by any stretch. It's why we are still working and planning until kids finish college. But I don't get how anyone following his mantra of living simply which I think is great to be honest and justify that sort of car? Versus say picking up a used nissan leaf or even volt or bolt? I ask because three friends bought electric cars used recently and told me they got them at under $15k as commuter cars because they couldn't justify the $40k new tesla.

[Fishindude77]

What sort of pickup costs $50k? Inflation? Or just really expensive?

Last several pickups I have owned have been the full size Ford F-150 and Chevy 1500 four door, four wheel drive trucks with 6.5' bed and all the bells and whistles.
That's just what they sell for.

[rennigade]

What sort of pickup costs $50k? Inflation? Or just really expensive?

all of them. they're basically luxury suv's now with space in the "trunk" to haul stuff. ACtually, not all pickup trucks are that much...but you can find a lot of them pushing $50k and more.

My father bought a new gmc (sierra I think?) I bought his 2009 tacoma. I really like the tacoma but its a tin can compared to the gmc, in terms of comfort and how it handles. Its impressive what trucks have become.

[disneysteve]

Work...yeah...sure...

Exactly. Pick up trucks used to be work vehicles. Now they are more often than not personal vehicles, which is why they have gotten so expensive. When you see a 50K+ pick up with leather seats, BOSE stereos, and all of the other creature comforts, you can be quite sure that truck is never going anywhere near a construction zone. Just like how the super luxury SUVs aren't going anywhere near an off-road path.

[kork13]

um wow. Is that for work though?

Work...yeah...sure...

Ask any guy with a massive truck, and they'll say "I like to have it for when I need to haul big loads." Ask how often he does that, and he'll avoid answering the question (truth for most: 1-2x a year, max). Some guys may use it to pull a trailer/RV/boat... But in general, guys buy trucks for the exact same reasons that they buy sports cars -- they think it makes them look cool.

Having lived in Oklahoma, where trucks and cattle each outnumber humans, I've become a bit cynical about America's obsession with trucks...can you tell?

[msomnipotent]

what did you buy? A truck?

Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. I throw up in my mouth a little every time I look at the mpg and the collision avoidance could be better, but other than that it is frigging awesome. My husband wants one now as well, but we will probably get a hybrid or plug in for him since he drives so much. If they have a Trailhawk hybrid version in a few years, we will probably get him one.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Our newest was $53,000, but it came out to about $41,000 with the employee discount. I would do it again. All of us love the new car and we got used to the higher-end bells and whistles pretty darn quickly. Just my 2 cents, but I got rid of our Outback to get our new car and I would never buy a Subaru again.

what did you buy? A truck?

[msomnipotent]

Our newest was $53,000, but it came out to about $41,000 with the employee discount. I would do it again. All of us love the new car and we got used to the higher-end bells and whistles pretty darn quickly. Just my 2 cents, but I got rid of our Outback to get our new car and I would never buy a Subaru again.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

um wow. Is that for work though?

[kork13]

What sort of pickup costs $50k? Inflation? Or just really expensive?

Yeah, trucks are ludicrously expensive. They're also the single class of vehicle that kept the American auto makers alive through the last recession, and are their top sellers year in & year out. Thus, they also use them to secure their strongest profits. And our red blooded Americans lap it up. Probably 25-30% of cars on the road are trucks.

[disneysteve]

What sort of pickup costs $50k? Inflation? Or just really expensive?

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...-on-the-market

15 most expensive pick ups. 10 of the 15 are over 50K and #11 is very close.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

Around $40K for my current pickup. Probably going to replace next spring and $50k wouldn't surprise me.

What sort of pickup costs $50k? Inflation? Or just really expensive?

[Fishindude77]

Around $40K for my current pickup. Probably going to replace next spring and $50k wouldn't surprise me.

[cypher1]

Most expensive ever spent just over $13K for a used 2010 CRV in 2017. While I understand others are willing to buy brand new cars, that's a decision I never found appealing nor could I ever justify.