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  • #31
    As far as suggesting licensing and forced training to carry to mitigate accidents or improper usage I just don't see that having much of an impact. The vast majority of lawful gun owners take it seriously and familiarize themselves with their guns and train regularly. The NRA who gets demonized by the left already offers many training programs at local ranges that gun owners voluntarily take part in.

    I mean do we really think passing a drivers test helps cut down on accidents? I certainly don't. How many people that observe the rules of the road for a 15-20 minute test actually drive the same way after they are licensed to drive? It would be no different with making a gun owner pass a test before buying and/or carrying.

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    • #32
      True about the mental health but does that mean you need more regulations to prevent them from getting guns? I thought I read that gun violence also stems from disputes between people? Like women who are killed by partners they have domestic abuse situations? That it's obvious when you get a TRO against a person?

      As for schools I'm not comfortable with it mostly because I wonder if teachers couldn't be distracted? Or old kids getting it out when the teacher isn't looking or picking a lock because of a dare? And then something happening?

      I feel like schools and hospitals are a lot nightclubs not a great idea. I prefer no carry but I guess open carry is preferable to concealed. I'd rather know an avoid.
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      • #33
        I think the concept of a "gun free zone" is silly.

        A criminal who doesn't care about the laws, or a crazy person intent on killing people aren't going to suddenly lay down their arms and go home because they cross into a "gun free zone." I guess it makes people feel safe that the sign is there, but in reality I don't see it accomplishing anything.

        As others have stated, the larger problem is mental health and how to keep guns away from crazy people. But, then again, someone intent on causing harm doesn't need a gun. The recent incident at Ohio State was done with a car and a knife. The incident in France was done with a box truck. 9/11 was carried out with some box cutters and a few high-jacked airplanes.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
          I think there should be far stricter limits on who can buy a gun, what guns are sold to the public (as opposed to the military and law enforcement), how much ammunition you can purchase, and most importantly, where you can take your gun. There needs to be a federal system/registry so that people can't stock up in one state, drive across the border and stock up even more. And there is absolutely no reason anyone should be carrying a gun in public, not at a school, not at a mall, not at a theme park, etc. A hunting rifle if you're a hunter and a handgun in your home and/or office for protection is fine but that's where it should end.
          ITA but don't think change for the better will occur under the new administration

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          • #35
            I can remember kids bringing their guns to elementary school as "show and tell" type projects. My buddy's and I frequently had .22 rifles or shotguns in our cars at high school so we could go hunting right after school. It wasn't a big deal and nobody got hurt.

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            • #36
              I'm not a gun person, my family aren't gun people but with that said I have no problem with guns and conceal and carry.

              I don't like open carry. My dd has a guy that walks the neighborhoods surrounding her college with a rifle on his back. People have complained but nothing can be done because our state allows open carry. He's not breaking any laws, not threatening anyone, but I it would make me nervous to see him walking down the side walks. I just don't see the need for that type of intimidation.

              I also say ban automatic weapons. No ordinary citizen needs access to an automatic!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Thrif-t View Post
                I also say ban automatic weapons. No ordinary citizen needs access to an automatic!

                The average citizen can't buy a fully automatic weapon. If you pay the stamp tax or have a dealer's license, then yes. But, the average person cannot purchase a fully automatic weapon. Semi-automatic is as much as you can go buy legally.
                Brian

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
                  The average citizen can't buy a fully automatic weapon. If you pay the stamp tax or have a dealer's license, then yes. But, the average person cannot purchase a fully automatic weapon. Semi-automatic is as much as you can go buy legally.
                  What do people need semi-auto matic weapons for if it's for hunting? I have no clue the difference. I have friends who hunt and use a bow and rifle only.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                    What do people need semi-auto matic weapons for if it's for hunting? I have no clue the difference. I have friends who hunt and use a bow and rifle only.
                    So they can go on Youtube to find out how to convert them to work like fully automatics!

                    I am also in the camp of limiting those who can purchase these weapons to law enforcement and military.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                      What do people need semi-auto matic weapons for if it's for hunting? I have no clue the difference. I have friends who hunt and use a bow and rifle only.
                      The only "automatic" aspect of semi automatic is that it autoloads a cartridge with one pull of the trigger. It doesn't burst or spray bullets. One pull of the trigger can only shoot one round at a time.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                        What do people need semi-auto matic weapons for if it's for hunting? I have no clue the difference. I have friends who hunt and use a bow and rifle only.
                        Certain states allow semi-auto weapons for hunting. But, there are restrictions on what type of game you are hunting. There are also restrictions on the caliper of weapon and on how many rounds you are allowed to have in the magazine at any given time.

                        Not all semi-auto weapons are for hunting. Most handguns are semi. Think a glock or smith and Wesson pistol like a 9mm or a .45. Classic home defense weapons.

                        The assault style rifles are also semi. Think AR-15.

                        Pulling the trigger results in one round being fired. You can continue to pull the trigger until all rounds have been exhausted without having to recock the weapon.
                        Brian

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by bjl584 View Post
                          Certain states allow semi-auto weapons for hunting. But, there are restrictions on what type of game you are hunting. There are also restrictions on the caliper of weapon and on how many rounds you are allowed to have in the magazine at any given time.

                          Not all semi-auto weapons are for hunting. Most handguns are semi. Think a glock or smith and Wesson pistol like a 9mm or a .45. Classic home defense weapons.

                          The assault style rifles are also semi. Think AR-15.

                          Pulling the trigger results in one round being fired. You can continue to pull the trigger until all rounds have been exhausted without having to recock the weapon.
                          Simple modification to the rifle can easily make it full auto..or just buy one of those recoil auto fire stocks. Not that it matters since an AR-15 is more deadly in semi-auto fire control mode than spray and prey mode.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Singuy View Post
                            Simple modification to the rifle can easily make it full auto..or just buy one of those recoil auto fire stocks. Not that it matters since an AR-15 is more deadly in semi-auto fire control mode than spray and prey mode.
                            spray and pray

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by StormRichards View Post
                              spray and pray
                              LoL, I edit my typos and you complain how I didn't have all my thoughts gathered, I don't and you correct my grammar. You must be fun at parties

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Singuy View Post
                                LoL, I edit my typos and you complain how I didn't have all my thoughts gathered, I don't and you correct my grammar. You must be fun at parties
                                I'm not really big on parties.

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