Originally posted by GoodSteward
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What % of your monthly gross income is your mortgage payment?
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We've talked about that before. That calculator is beyond insane. It would have me "affording" a $700,000 house as opposed to the $250,000 house we actually own. Apparently they are using approximately 5 times income as the guideline when the real guideline is 2-3 times income.Steve
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It's sad when someone as big as CNN Money gives such bogus advice. I wonder how many bankers follow this, watching so many people borrow until death do they part.Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes that reason is you're stupid and make bad choices.
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0% because we rent. No but seriously we started at something ridiculous like 50% of take home on our first place. Refinanced it down to 40% and it was fine. We were young, broke, living HCOLA making grad student money. And rent was more than we bought for. We made in 2001 combined $42k and our rent was $1000/month for a studio. Our mortgage when we bough was $650 but HOA $150, insurance, etc. We just were used to spending a lot on rent/mortgage. Problem with HCOLA.
Then we spent i think around 35% and it was tight but we were also saving 30% of income and eeking it out. Then as income went up I think it was 25% by the time we had kiddo #1. It was pretty comfortable. Savings went up and spending but not proportionately. Then it was 20% and we were super comfortable and saving probably 35-40% of income, and it was something like 12% of total income (salary and bonus).
What happened to us at least is that everything was based of salary. We never touched our bonuses and saved every penny. So our salaries went up to help us get more comfortable monthly and our savings also went up with bigger bonuses.
We'll probably do the same thing now 25% of salary and then let it drop as we make more income. That's salary not counting bonus which if it follows the trend DH used to make 40% on bonus and I looked back at last 2-3 years and it was 40% bonus. So we're comfortable doing more because we save on salary and the bonus. I might add in the earlier years the salary was smaller and bonus smaller.
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Yes, much more useful question about housing expense and income. When we bought way back in 1993 at 7.68% interest on a 30 year mortgage we were paying--
9% of gross (includes PITI)
That was less than rent. I am so glad we bought when, where, and how we did. At the time 7.68% was a great interest rate. The small payment gave us a lot of leeway for spending and saving elsewhere. Utilities were about the same as renting, too, so things worked out nicely.
House is paid off now."There is some ontological doubt as to whether it may even be possible in principle to nail down these things in the universe we're given to study." --text msg from my kid
"It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." --Frederick Douglass
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Even at 18%, though, you are still far below the "recommended" 28% limit.Originally posted by dawnwes View PostI feel like the odd man out, but ours is 18%.Steve
* Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
* There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
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Not sure what TLA means but he was referring to the CNN online calculator mentioned earlier.Originally posted by Nutria View PostThe news network, or some other TLA?Steve
* Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
* Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
* There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.
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