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    Hello, I am new to Saving Advice. I have $44000+ in consumer debt due to stupid decisions I made and want to make a serious effort to paying it down as soon as possible. Here is a list of what my debts, income and budget are going to be. Please give me any feedback that you think might be helpful.

    First, some background about my living situation. My partner and I live together in a rented apartment. He is disabled, and does a part-time job. Each month he brings in ~$800, and I earn ~$3600. We keep our finances separate. He has no debt, but has some medical and other expenses that I do not pay for. The lease is in my name and I pay the rent. We take turns paying for things like movie tickets, we chip in proportionally for any vacations that we take, and we go dutch when it comes to eating out. We go to the second-run theatre or get Redbox, and eat out using coupons or Groupon deals, so our spending in these categories is not too much (see budget). We share groceries – not in any particular way, but he buys some things and I buy other things as needed – it works out pretty evenly over the month.

    The budget below only reflects my income and spending. Also, it is a bare bones budget. I realize that other than the $100/mo that I want to send to the EF, I am not saving much more for unexpected events etc. However, with over $44000 in consumer debt, I want to attack that aggressively rather than have a lot sitting around in savings. If something unexpected happens and I need more than I have in my EF, I will borrow the money from my Personal Line of Credit and then pay it down ASAP. Once I am down to about half this debt, I will up the amount I send into the EF.

    My employer pays a 6% employee contribution towards my retirement plan. They don’t match – they just pay 6% in and no more. I have not planned to add anything to the retirement plan until I pay down my debt. My employer also pays contributions into a retirement reserve account, and I will receive a pension at retirement that is calculated based on salary at retirement. I have 2 more years to go towards vesting for the pension.


    BUDGET
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    Income: $3600
    Rent: $749*
    Internet: $15 (my share)
    Car Insurance: $40
    Utilities: $45 (usually ends up bring around $30-40)
    Cell phone: $46
    Gas: $80**
    Groceries: $100 (my share)
    Eating Out: $80 (my share)
    Miscellaneous: $100***
    Emergency Fund: $100
    Debt Reduction: $2245 (see section on debt below)

    * I live on the West Coast, and this amount of rent is pretty reasonably frugal for my area. I will be looking for something slightly cheaper to move into when my lease is up at the end of August, but I don’t know that I can lower this very much.
    ** This much works out for in town use. If I need more for out of town trips, I will budget for it or use Misc. money for smaller amounts that go over
    *** Misc. covers most of my expenses that are not covered in the other categories. I rarely buy clothes that are not from thrift stores. I have no regular medical expenses.


    DEBTS
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    Discover: $3033.67 (25.99% APR, need to pay this off first)
    USBank 2: $7086.72 ($700 at 23.99% APR, the rest at 0% APR till 8/13, 15.99% after that)
    USBank 3: $9188.27 (0% APR till 10/13, 15.99% after that)
    Chase: $4869.50 (0% APR till 3/14. Hopefully it will be paid off by then)
    Citi Expedia: $3335.00 (0% APR till 8/13. Hopefully will be paid off by the end of the year)
    Personal LOC: $10441.84 (9% APR)
    Car Loan: $6197.09 (3% APR)

    The minimum payments on all of these combined come up to $815/mo. I plan on putting $2245/mo towards them all.

    I will try to see if I can open card and transfer some of these to 0% balance rates. However, given my debt:income ratio, it is unlikely that I will be approved for new cards. I tried recently and was declined. I will try again every few months or so while I work on reducing these debts.

  • #2
    What did you spend all this money on? Can you sell anything to help jumpstart your payoff? For example, how much is the car worth? Could you sell it and buy something cheaper outright? While you're right, your budget is pretty bare bones, I'd be doing everything I could to get back on my feet, including foregoing ANY eating out, selling anything I had of value, etc

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    • #3
      I don't have any comments except to say that if you are sticking to the budget and making that debt payment, you are doing a great job. Keep it up and the debt will be gone before you know it!

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      • #4
        Kill that debt ASAP!

        With your employer contributing 6% I would probably take advantage of that. If you do not have to contribute anything to get that 6%, then you are putting away $200/month (6% of $3600). If you have to contribue something to get that 6% then do the bare minimum, That is a good deal if you ask me. I imagine that money is vested after 2 years of contribution (or 2 years of being with the company, not sure which). If you have a secure job and know you will be there for a while, or have already been, then start contributing to that plan, I would say!

        It sounds werid that they dont match your contribution. They just contribute 6% for you? You must have to contribute something. That is free savings which sounds awesome!

        Then like you do, put away $100 for EF, and then put all your spare cash towards debt!
        Newly married, me and wife paid off 20k in less than 10 months! its definitely doable.
        Last edited by futballa; 07-09-2013, 03:05 PM.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the responses so far. This is helpful.

          riverwed070707 - about 1/2 of that debt is from expenses with school - I was an international student in the US and not eligible for federal financial aid, so it all went on my credit cards. Another 25% was "young and stupid" spending in my early 20's on travel and other frivolous things I did not need. Another 25% was spent gambling. I should have known better, but made bad choices and ended up where I am. I have detailed all of this on a blog I started recently to keep myself accountable. So, I have nothing valuable to show for all this terrible debt - I wish I had. As far as my car goes, it is a 2002 car with some body damage. I owe the bank about $3000 more for it than I will get if I sell it. So, I decided to keep it for now.

          sblatner - I will try my best to stick with it. I feel like I hit rock bottom and spent a considerable time in self-loathing. This is my attempt at not spend time pitying myself too much, but to start doing something about it.

          futballa - It is indeed like getting free money, which is pretty awesome. What they do is that they pay the "employee contribution of 6%" instead of matching. I need not pay anything to get this - they do this for all their employees. I can put away more for retirement if I want to, but I am deferring this until after I pay down some debt. This vested as soon as I joined, but I have two more years to go until my pension vests. I feel that my job is stable for the next few years unless I do something awful. I am lucky to work for them. If I am able to stick to this budget more or less, then I should be paid off in the next three years. I sincerely hope I can!

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          • #6
            How do you divide the $2245 amongst the various creditors? Are you paying minimums only on all but one?

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            • #7
              "I plan on putting $2245/mo towards them all."

              This seems to be a great plan for me, and looking at your status I'm sure you are going to handle it. Good luck

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              • #8
                Originally posted by IndianGal View Post
                Hello, I am new to Saving Advice. I have $44000+ in consumer debt due to stupid decisions I made and want to make a serious effort to paying it down as soon as possible. Here is a list of what my debts, income and budget are going to be. Please give me any feedback that you think might be helpful.

                BUDGET
                ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                Income: $3600
                Rent: $749*
                Internet: $15 (my share)
                Car Insurance: $40
                Utilities: $45 (usually ends up bring around $30-40)
                Cell phone: $46
                Gas: $80**
                Groceries: $100 (my share)
                Eating Out: $80 (my share)
                Miscellaneous: $100***
                Emergency Fund: $100
                Debt Reduction: $2245 (see section on debt below)

                DEBTS
                ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                Discover: $3033.67 (25.99% APR, need to pay this off first)
                USBank 2: $7086.72 ($700 at 23.99% APR, the rest at 0% APR till 8/13, 15.99% after that)
                USBank 3: $9188.27 (0% APR till 10/13, 15.99% after that)
                Chase: $4869.50 (0% APR till 3/14. Hopefully it will be paid off by then)
                Citi Expedia: $3335.00 (0% APR till 8/13. Hopefully will be paid off by the end of the year)
                Personal LOC: $10441.84 (9% APR)
                Car Loan: $6197.09 (3% APR)

                The minimum payments on all of these combined come up to $815/mo. I plan on putting $2245/mo towards them all.
                First, good job getting this down on paper and in your head. While it looks like a lot, this is totally doable!

                With an "extra" $1430 ever month, I would do the following:

                August: Pay minimums on all, plus $1430 to Discover
                Sept: Pay minimums on all, plus $1430 to Discover
                Oct: minimums plus pay off Discover plus USBank2 $700 plus $590 to Citi Exp.
                Nov: minimums plus $1430 + amt. from Discover to Citi Exp.
                Dec: minimums plus $1300 to Citi Exp. plus $143 + amt. from Discover to Chase
                Jan: minimums plus amt. from discover and citi + $1430 to Chase
                Feb: minimums plus amt. from discover and citi + $1430 to Chase
                Mar; minimums plus amt. from discover and citi + $1430 to Chase (hopefully this will work out so you do NOT pay interest on the Chase)

                By the end of Mar, 2014, you'll have:
                USBank 2: $6386(@ 15.99%)
                USBank 3: $9188.27 (15.99%)
                Personal LOC: $10441.84 (9% APR)
                Car Loan: $6197.09 (3% APR)

                ONLY in April, once everything else is cleared, would I try and apply for another 0% card! If you get it, move the US Bank3 stuff, if not, then keep going with...

                April: min. plus discover, citi, chase plus $1430 onto USBank3
                May: min. plus discover, citi, chase plus $1430 onto USBank3
                June: min. plus discover, citi, chase plus $1430 onto USBank3
                July: min. plus discover, citi, chase plus $1430 onto USBank3
                Aug: min. plus discover, citi, chase plus $1430 onto USBank3
                Sept: min. plus discover, citi, chase plus $1430 onto USBank3
                Oct: minimums plus pay off USBank3 plus extra to USBank 2
                Nov: minimums plus money for discover, citi, chase, USBank3 payments plus $1430 to USBank2
                Dec: minimums plus money for discover, citi, chase, USBank3 payments plus $1430 to USBank2
                Jan: minimums plus money for discover, citi, chase, USBank3 payments plus $1430 to USBank2
                Feb: pay minimums, pay off USBank2, put ALL extra into Emergency Fund!

                By the end of Feb. 2015, you have:
                Personal LOC: $10441.84 (9% APR)
                Car Loan: $6197.09 (3% APR)
                (of course, these amounts would be lower, since you've been paying the minimums on them all along)

                I would then put $430 MORE into the EF and continue to hammer away with the "extra" $1k PLUS all those other minimums on those two loans. I'd say you could have everything done with by the end of June 2016. Now I realize it's currently July 2013 and that's 3 years, but just think, you'd be DONE in 3 years!

                So that's my suggestion, hold off on the EF building for a bit yet and instead just hammer away. Good luck!

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