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  • Nightmare of selling home got worse

    I previously posted on my nightmare of selling my home.

    May 30-my home listed for 200K. We were kind of hoping to get 190K for it. (IT has many many updates and was VERY well maintained) year built=1975. Status of it "paid off (bc we both worked hard for so many years, no windfall or inheritance)
    we found a perfect home for us same week we got offer. our offer on it was accepted. commence working to close the same day.

    June 8=got fha offer for 205k stipulating we pay 5 grand of closing costs. Later found out paying closing costs is "not really asked for" anymore but no one told us that. We agreed to sell it to them.
    Yes, there was a preapproval letter. Not sure how good it was. It was given by an irresponsible rookie loan officer.

    REgular inspection=the buyers had it done on day 10 of the 10 day allowed time period per contract. fixed one very minor repair. few other minor down the line issues were not asked to be addressed.

    Ordering fha appraisel=was delayed 3 times. took well over 3 weeks from inspection. was lied to by buyer's loan officier and his boss at mortgage company about it "yea it was ordered. it's in the system" but found out it wasn't at the time even close. I was hearing buyer was "challenged" and still "shopping around for a lender at this point in the process"

    my experienced helpful loan officer offered to help this rookie with under a year experience get things done to close the deal but he didn't except.
    Buyer's broker wasn't returning my realtor or lo's calls. They were disclosure papers etc he was late on having people sign which caused us more stress.
    appraisal finally ordered and done.
    we passed fha appraisel with no issue. loan officer of buyer took days to report result. came in at 195. agreed to sell home for 195 and still pay 5 grand closing to them.
    we looked to net 175K after taxes and fees to put down toward new home. we want to mortgage the remaining 75 K to buy the new home. new home bought at about 254K

    We were getting worried.
    My loan officer worried they aren't solid buyers but no proof.

    So it's about mid July and we're still waiting for clear to close. we extend July 22 closing to July 29 which is two days from now today.

    We find out around July 22 same day we extend contract a week there are problems with buyer's student loans being in deferment causing problems with debt to income ratio.
    student loan smust be deferred 12 months from day of closing to not count as dbt for fha mortgage.
    Loan officer via vague e mail said he handled it and fannie mae is sending a letter to clear it up. we're freaked out by how vage this is but loan officer doesn't follow up on asking for details.

    my loan officer tells him to make sure he calls fannie mae to make sure the letter was sent couple days later. told him to see if they can just fax it. he doesn't

    find out July 26, the buyer's loan officer didn't call fannie mae. he told his clients, my buyers to do it, didn't bother to ask it be faxed despite givin this advice.

    My loan officer got permission to call my buyers via their realtor. that's how we know loans are in forbearance not deferral. I also find out the lo told the buyer the wrong kind of letter;thier loans are in forbearance not deferment.
    forbearance means you applied for hardship not to pay them. it can't be taken out of debt to income ratio under any circumstance. apparently lo didn't understand these terms. I got schooled on them after a 5 minute google search.

    They have until noon on July 28 which is tomorrow per my realtor to produce proof deal can close or it's done. some kind of three way call is going to be arranged to fannie mae with parties involoved.



    Bottom line "I've had my house off the market until from June 8the until today July 27 and counting all because a loan officer didn't look at student loan debt while preapproving the buyer.

    I have to now take about 25 grand out of roth ira to buy the house I found to move into same week I had offer on mine(we were going to close on the same day)and start all over with putting home back on market while staging a home.
    I think I might look into filing a complaint against his license if I can or posting some bad reviews online.

    We are considering asking the buyer to work with my loan officer after contract lapses July 29 to see if she can get them approved. I'm afraid to lose more time though but what's a few days after months???


    ps
    I had problems with my realtor being very bad too and my dh signed a 6 month contract with him(he didn't know what he was signing and wasn't told, was told he had to sign this paper so he can show the house, didn't say it was to sign with him for 6 months but yea dh could have read it huh)
    Last edited by Goldy1; 07-27-2014, 05:06 AM.

  • #2
    my brother is trying to buy a house cash right now, he is seeing a lot of offers with loans falling through. several houses being relisted because of non funding, seems to be a problem around here, maybe lending is getting stricter
    retired in 2009 at the age of 39 with less than 300K total net worth

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    • #3
      Okay I'm going to ask stupid questions, why didn't you buy on contigency? And why didn't you have a HELOC? And can you push back you your closing? And why would you take out $25k from a Roth? Do you not have an EF cash savings?
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      • #4
        Didn't tHink my offer to buy a home would be accepted on contingency. Realtor never mentioned that. Like he cares about anything but closing tho. I wouldn't take an offer on my home that is void if someone doesn't sell theirs.
        Also we do have home equity line never used but didn't think I could use that if selling. Emergency fund it's my Roth. 401k is my retirement. Not everyone had 54 thousand-I in the bank sitting. Lol

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Goldy1 View Post
          Didn't tHink my offer to buy a home would be accepted on contingency. Realtor never mentioned that. Like he cares about anything but closing tho. I wouldn't take an offer on my home that is void if someone doesn't sell theirs.
          Also we do have home equity line never used but didn't think I could use that if selling. Emergency fund it's my Roth. 401k is my retirement. Not everyone had 54 thousand-I in the bank sitting. Lol
          So you do have an open equity line? Use it and leave the Roth alone.

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          • #6
            How much earnest money did you put up for the new house?

            I would consider canceling the purchase of the new house as your current financial circumstances will not allow you to borrow enough money to buy the new house. The source of your down payment has disappeared and you cannot borrow 100 percent of the purchase price. You risk losing the earnest money, but that's far better than carrying two mortgages while you negotiate a new sale on your existing house. The current buyer clearly cannot perform. You would have to put your house back on the market as soon as you could get the contract canceled and hope you get a buyer.

            Your agent will be very unhappy. Tough. She did not do her job by advising you to accept a contract from a weak buyer and then not canceling that contract when it first became obvious the buyer could not perform. She also should have advised you to make your offer on the new house contingent on selling the old one, as you could not afford to do this any other way.

            Under no circumstances would I take money out of an IRA to fund the purchase of the new home. If you are that strapped for cash, how will you carry two mortgages while you wait for a new buyer? What if you have to wait 6 months or a year? In your shoes, I would cancel the new purchase and the contract on the sale of your house, learn my lesson, and move on.

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            • #7
              Another Reader, on another thread Goldy has shared that there is no mortgage on their current home. They own it free and clear.

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              • #8
                Sorry, I missed that. The HELOC would be my choice for the down payment source if I wanted to proceed with the purchase, as long as the lender on the new house does not object. I would complain about the agent's poor advice to her broker and ask to cancel the listing contract. You need an agent that is capable of dealing with a complex, multi-stage transaction.

                In some markets, listing agents require the buyer to be preapproved by a lender they know to be competent before they advise their client to accept a contract. The buyer is not required to use that lender, but having that full vetting by a competent lender increases the likelihood the deal will close.

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                • #9
                  Hello. Yes. I own my home free and clear. I plan to put money back in roth after my current home sells. I would not carry two mortgages.
                  I found out today deal fell through.
                  They should have never been preapproved for loan amount. They had multiple issues with credit. My realtor was told by loan officer of buyer they were solid and just one issue to clear up. They lied. There were many. They kept trying and trying to get loan thru while hurting my family by having home off market almost two months instead of letting me know
                  How can my realtor know they are not good buyers. Maybe he should know. Not sure. He did not have access to file. I can't reject offer bc realtor doesn't know loan officier.
                  Now I can't take any offers until buyer signs to release me I'm told even after contract expires. Hope they sign it.
                  Weary of taking fha again but I passed their inspection.
                  This has been awful

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Goldy1 View Post
                    Hello. Yes. I own my home free and clear. I plan to put money back in roth after my current home sells. I would not carry two mortgages.
                    I found out today deal fell through.
                    They should have never been preapproved for loan amount. They had multiple issues with credit. My realtor was told by loan officer of buyer they were solid and just one issue to clear up. They lied. There were many. They kept trying and trying to get loan thru while hurting my family by having home off market almost two months instead of letting me know
                    How can my realtor know they are not good buyers. Maybe he should know. Not sure. He did not have access to file. I can't reject offer bc realtor doesn't know loan officier.
                    Now I can't take any offers until buyer signs to release me I'm told even after contract expires. Hope they sign it.
                    Weary of taking fha again but I passed their inspection.
                    This has been awful
                    Do you mean you will continue to contribute to Roths for 2014 and beyond, and eventually replace the money which was taken out? Because you can do that. However, you cannot ever just send in 54k and say "here is money I withdrew, please put it back".

                    I'm sorry your deal fell through. It must be very frustrating.

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                    • #11
                      it was awful esp being off market in summer almost 2 months for them and every step was a hassle with lies about everything ie. only one thing to clear up with the buyer and it was more things all the time. They should not have been preappproved. I was told their realtor told them to put student loans in forbearance(no clue why, it didn't help anything and he should not do that)I could go on and on about how I was hurt by this and lied to by buyer's loan officer and realtor, but I am going to stop and move on.
                      I was told I have 60 days to put the money back in roth otherwise I can make max yearly contributions.
                      my main goal is getting my home sold, refinancing after that with the money I get from current home I own and hope the fees aren't awful to refinance but told I have to wait 6 months to do refi.

                      I won't thrilled walking into closing in a couple days after all this. I am also due to have a baby in less than three months so this has been quite the stress ball and now I have to stage home all over(thankfully I feel ok). I'm pulling thru. gonna get this thing sold. I figure next buyer will have to be better than this(please!!) lol

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                      • #12
                        I am going to figure out how to file a complaint on their loan officer since he had my home off market two months for a buyer who should never be preapproved. he was looking into debts and student loan payments still the day before the closing(which was second closing date to close bc they already had an extension)

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                        • #13
                          Maybe I should start writing a book. I have a showing tonight and dealing with an impromptu hornet infestation on my porch. awwww. nice greeting buzz buzz nice

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Goldy1 View Post
                            I was told I have 60 days to put the money back in roth otherwise I can make max yearly contributions.
                            This is true. You can a withdrawal and have 60 days to deposit the money in the same Roth account or another one if desired. And you can still contribute as normal.
                            My other blog is Your Organized Friend.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Goldy1 View Post
                              Maybe I should start writing a book. I have a showing tonight and dealing with an impromptu hornet infestation on my porch. awwww. nice greeting buzz buzz nice
                              Wow! A showing already is great...there is still lots of time for people wanting to buy. People are buying and selling all year long, especially people moving for jobs. There is a buyer for every home. I'm sure your agent and loan officer will help you do due diligence even better on the next offer.
                              My other blog is Your Organized Friend.

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