Toxic Work Environment

[LivingAlmostLarge]

I remember you telling this story.
Part of my exit strategy is to build up as much cash as I can.
I may follow your lead should things get too bad and I have enough cash to support a sabbatical.

Quit. We didn't have a plan and quit. Worked out for the best. We did however have a large pile of cash, and a budget that was tight. We were living on $3k/month not including rent which turned out to be $2400/month which made our entire $72k/year budget very reasonable for a family of 4. $3k a month was mr money mustache. We lived that way in HCOLA for about 4 years before we quit and that allowed us to do whatever.

DH quit because he was tired, sad, and lonely. What other reason do you need? But I will say if GF can't move for 2 years, why not take a 1-2 months sabbatical and drive uber, delivery doordash, shop instacart for a couple months, find something remote, then start making a plan to move in 2 year to cabin. And use these 2 years to HVAC, washer dryer etc. I will say having a plan WAS one of the biggest factors of getting me to stick it out where I was both mentally and emotionally. Knowing the end of the road we were walking was coming I just had to keep on the straight and narrow.

Also happens to be now. Sometimes a plan makes it bearable. We had this plan since 2011 and moved in 2015. Every friend I met I would say in 2016 we are going to move back to the west coast. Every friend would laugh and think I'm nuts but I knew that was our plan. Everyone kept telling me "you won't leave your kids are getting older. Why would you move? You've made a life here. Where are you going to work?" Then in 2015 I said boom mic drop "we're leaving". No one thought we were going to bail like that.

Now people always ask us, is it frightening to quit without a job? Not if you have a plan and money (plan is having enough money to do nothing or realize you can pick up side jobs). Second "how do you take a 70% paycut and survive with high expense years with children?" LAL "never live beyond what you think is reasonable." I already think we spend a lot turns out I was wrong. We spend minimally compared to most in our area even though we were no average income we spent easily at average living expenses. Only discrepancy is our housing. BUT again since we were 20s we were built to live where our mortgage/rent was 50% of spending (thank you california and hawaii). So everything else I'm used to seeing it run as lean.

[bjl584]

Hi All

I'm resurrecting this thread, as I am happy to report that I just received and have accepted a job offer at a new company.
With it, a pay raise and no loss of vacation time.

Good bye toxic work environment.

[kork13]

That's fantastic! Always great to get a success story!

[disneysteve]

Hi All

I'm resurrecting this thread, as I am happy to report that I just received and have accepted a job offer at a new company.
With it, a pay raise and no loss of vacation time.

Good bye toxic work environment.

Congrats. Glad to hear you are getting out of there and moving on to what will hopefully be a much better situation all around, with a raise to go with it.

[jenn_jenn]

Hi All

I'm resurrecting this thread, as I am happy to report that I just received and have accepted a job offer at a new company.
With it, a pay raise and no loss of vacation time.

Good bye toxic work environment.

That is great news. Congratulations!!

[LivingAlmostLarge]

congratulations! Happy dance

[Jluke]

How did the soon-to-be former employer take the news?

congrats

[kork13]

How did the soon-to-be former employer take the news?

congrats

Based on what he's said previously... my bet would be one of two responses:
1) "How can you abandon us like this?? Have you no loyalty?!?"
2) "Wait, you're still here? Good riddance, we didn't need you anyway."

Strongly toxic environments tend toward one of those two responses when somebody chooses to leave... sometimes both.

[bjl584]

How did the soon-to-be former employer take the news?

congrats

So far, it has been okay. At least for now.
My boss is bipolar, so once things sink in I might be asked to leave.
For now, I am being allowed to work out my last 2 weeks.

Inventory is at the end of the month, and no one really knows how to run it besides me.
Being that I won't be there for it I'd guess that I'm being allowed to work out until mid-month out of necessity.
They have 2 weeks to pull as much info out of me as they can.
This is the result of a lot of tribal knowledge at my workplace and not a lot of processes being written down or documented.

[LivingAlmostLarge]

So far, it has been okay. At least for now.
My boss is bipolar, so once things sink in I might be asked to leave.
For now, I am being allowed to work out my last 2 weeks.

Inventory is at the end of the month, and no one really knows how to run it besides me.
Being that I won't be there for it I'd guess that I'm being allowed to work out until mid-month out of necessity.
They have 2 weeks to pull as much info out of me as they can.
This is the result of a lot of tribal knowledge at my workplace and not a lot of processes being written down or documented.

good work!