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  • #16
    So...quick update so I don't leave anyone holding their breath (not that you would) --but all too often I see threads like this on the internet where someone flies off the proverbial handle like I did, and then an update is never posted, leaving the reader wondering, "and then...?"

    Two days before my separation the director of our division came to me and asked if i wanted to take a temporary role in the company. He didn't want me to leave, and with me staring over the edge of being without income, I decided it was probably in my best interests to take the job. I mean...6 months is nothing, and the job would be far away from my current department, with a different boss, who I liked. So I said yes. That whole thing I said about fear--well, it's a learning curve.

    I had a wonderful week off in-between gigs and worked with my hands, went for walks, cooked some awesome food. A real "staycation" if you will..

    Three weeks into this gig, and I hate it. Different (nicer) people, but same hot, nasty office, staring at a computer listlessly, and way too much ambiguity in the work. I still don't understand my role or where I'm needed. That feeling of "I'd rather be dead than continue to do this for the next 'x' years" has returned twice as strong. But I've also realized incremental change is better than explosive change, unless I have a clear direction, and I don't. Not yet anyway.

    I've over-thought career choices and searched job boards so hard, and it's netted me nothing. It all sounds the same--underpaid, nebulous office work in cubicle farms, or highly technical rocket-science positions that are 40,60,80+ hours/week and I'm under-qualified anyway. Nothing there inspires passion.

    In another thread, I described I have an interest in dentistry, and/or thought I was probably cut out to be in a medical field, but that the ship has probably already sailed for me, staring at 8+ years in medical school and $200k in debt.

    This crazy idea hit me yesterday afternoon at 4:00. I stumbled on this idea of being a male dental hygienist--a career I never thought about seriously, even looked down upon, but, can still get into in my early 30's for 21 months of my time and $60k. The last day has been spent researching local colleges and listening to podcasts from passionate male hygienists about the uniqueness of their position in the industry. No, it's not dental school and I won't be a dentist, but I've been oddly inspired, and more than inspiration, I have a vision about it..I can see myself doing the work, and I instantly had this idea of working for underserved GLBT communities. It has meaning to me. Why now? Why yesterday when the idea hit me like a ton of bricks randomly at 4pm? I don't know--but I'm also smart enough to know to heed those kinds of things with caution. They could have serious meaning, or it might just be indigestion. Now the idea needs to simmer.

    I don't know what it means, but, I'm faking having a doctor appointment tomorrow morning so I can escape work and go sit down with an admissions/recruiter for a local medical institute to gather info. The cost is a no-brainer.

    Nothing may come of it, and I might dismiss the idea or talk myself out of it, but if I've learned anything about myself over the years, it's that my own questions and feelings are worth asking and exploring, and I've fallen victim too many times of discounting my ideas and feelings based on what other people think and expect of me.

    I'll post an update if anything comes of it. Tomorrow should be interesting, if anything.
    History will judge the complicit.

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    • #17
      Good luck. Let us know how it goes
      Brian

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      • #18
        I wish you all the best tomorrow. No one should have to stay in a soul sucking meaningless job for decades when they can plan their way out

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        • #19
          Hopefully, your changing the rut your in for a better one instead of staying in the one you can't bare. Hope it works out for the best.

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          • #20
            Sounds like a neat idea, certainly well worth exploring further.

            I can totally appreciate where you are right now seeing as I'm in a similar spot, in the process of potentially changing jobs because this one is sucking the life out of me.

            Good luck. Keep us posted.
            Steve

            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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            • #21
              Congrats!!!
              Radical moves like resignation is best way to upgrade your skills and start working much harder on your home projects which eventually will bring you earnings. It is hard at beginning but it will bring you joy of working at home.
              Wish you all best!!!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                Sounds like a neat idea, certainly well worth exploring further.

                I can totally appreciate where you are right now seeing as I'm in a similar spot, in the process of potentially changing jobs because this one is sucking the life out of me.

                Good luck. Keep us posted.
                I think I remember from another thread that you're still going to be providing care, but looking for new options outside of a private practice, right?

                I met with someone from a local school this morning and did a tour of the clinical area where students were working on patients...my heart tells me this is something I need to seriously consider.

                The next program starts June 2017....ouch! --and that's IF I'm one of the 30 students accepted.
                History will judge the complicit.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ua_guy View Post
                  I think I remember from another thread that you're still going to be providing care, but looking for new options outside of a private practice, right?
                  Exactly. Right now (and for the past 23 years) I have been in outpatient family practice. What I'm in the process of doing is starting per diem work in an urgent care center. If that works out and I like it, I may transition to doing that full time.

                  Primary care is dying for many reasons and I've had about enough.
                  Steve

                  * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                  * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                  * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ua_guy View Post

                    The next program starts June 2017....ouch! --and that's IF I'm one of the 30 students accepted.
                    This stinks but it does give you time to boost up your application. Maybe volunteer somewhere where you interact with patients, like a nursing home, something in the patient care end of things. You'll certainly have lots of time to document how your current job and other life skills have helped you reach the point of being ready to take this new education on. I would think being a male and not just out of high school would be in your favor, they probably want to diversify the student body.

                    I had no idea these was a wait to get into school for that. It's starting to seem that way for anything medical related around here.

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                    • #25
                      Why does the program only start 2017? Is it because you have to do prerequisites? Can you do it online before then?
                      LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                        Why does the program only start 2017? Is it because you have to do prerequisites? Can you do it online before then?
                        Turns out there are only a few schools here in the Seattle area that offer the program and admission is highly competitive at all of them, and admission is capped at 30 seats in most cases. For most schools it's a 2-year AAS degree program, but many are transitioning to a 4-year Allied Health bachelor's degree. So the time is now to get moving with a school that still offers a 2-year program.

                        I met with an admissions counselor and I was told I'd be a very strong candidate (already have a bachelor's, good grades, etc) but sometimes it just comes down to the number of available seats. I was told to have my portfolio and application completed by June of this year so I'd be one of the first considered for 2017...so....time to get moving if this is what I want to do.

                        But I'm not sure yet. In talking to friends and family, they've doubted me, saying I'm probably too quiet/reserved of a person for the profession or never would have imagined me in the job. Rather than secure their approval, I just need to make damn sure this is something I truly want to do, and for which I'm willing to put up the money and effort--and then the rest should come naturally and take care of itself.
                        History will judge the complicit.

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                        • #27
                          So it's too late to start in the fall? And there are no programs in the Winter term? What are other options other than dental hygiene you'd be interested in?
                          LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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                          • #28
                            I wouldn't worry about being a shy, reserved person. Not everybody wants their medical professional to sit down and blabber the whole time. I was considered a shy, reserved person but that worked to my favor. I became less shy as I went through school but being reserved helped me professionally and at the bedside. You can be friendly, interested and kind without having to be over the top. I personally can't stand it when my hygienist talks the whole time, asks me the same questions about hospice all the time, tells me her personal life and wants commentary while I really can't talk. I prefer to close my eyes and zone out during dental work, it gets me through it easier. I would welcome a hygienist who has boundaries.

                            And being reserved behind the scenes can be good. Instead of speaking off the top of their head all the time, sharing way too much personal info with colleagues and then wondering why they are not taken seriously, a reserved person who can balance the social and the professional does well. And his opinion is generally respected as the group knows he wouldn't share it unless he had thought about it.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by FLA View Post
                              I wouldn't worry about being a shy, reserved person. Not everybody wants their medical professional to sit down and blabber the whole time. I was considered a shy, reserved person but that worked to my favor. I became less shy as I went through school but being reserved helped me professionally and at the bedside. You can be friendly, interested and kind without having to be over the top. I personally can't stand it when my hygienist talks the whole time, asks me the same questions about hospice all the time, tells me her personal life and wants commentary while I really can't talk. I prefer to close my eyes and zone out during dental work, it gets me through it easier. I would welcome a hygienist who has boundaries.

                              And being reserved behind the scenes can be good. Instead of speaking off the top of their head all the time, sharing way too much personal info with colleagues and then wondering why they are not taken seriously, a reserved person who can balance the social and the professional does well. And his opinion is generally respected as the group knows he wouldn't share it unless he had thought about it.
                              See...I totally agree. As an introvert, I really don't appreciate hygienists and the like trying to make small chat (or trying to have meaningful conversations) with a bunch of tools and hands jammed in my mouth. Perhaps I'd be a rare unicorn in the world of dental hygiene because every hygienist I've ever known talks non-stop.

                              But I think there are the types of patients that need and want to be engaged, maybe just because they have someone's undivided attention, or because they're fearful of the procedures, or simply because they can't sit there and not talk about something for a half hour or more. As an introvert, I know part of my job would be to meet the expectations of those people too, and that would take effort.

                              Myers Briggs "ISFJ" is the dominant personality type in DH, which is surprising. Extroverts are the other large cohort of hygienists. Dentists are predominately introvert, so I guess it makes sense that a well-blended office would have an introvert dentist with more talkative, extroverted hygienists to round out the office.
                              History will judge the complicit.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ua_guy View Post
                                Myers Briggs "ISFJ" is the dominant personality type in DH, which is surprising. Extroverts are the other large cohort of hygienists. Dentists are predominately introvert, so I guess it makes sense that a well-blended office would have an introvert dentist with more talkative, extroverted hygienists to round out the office.
                                I got asked my type in hospice interview. I am an INTJ. I knew that would be frowned upon and compromised (lied) that I am an INTP. Introverts were valued among our extroverts in hospice. Js however, were not. I survived, heck, I thrived. If you decide you really want this, don't let others opinions hold you back. you may come out of school a totally different person professionally.

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