Yearly Evaluation

[rennigade]

Also...nothing says you arent allowed to interview for other jobs. Nice part of that is, if they offer you the position and you do not want it, you already have a job to fall back on. Start job searching and sending out some resumes.

[ua_guy]

Also...nothing says you arent allowed to interview for other jobs. Nice part of that is, if they offer you the position and you do not want it, you already have a job to fall back on. Start job searching and sending out some resumes.

Yup. Get the fire started while you're still warm. Then, if a much better offer rolls in but you'd stay at your current job if they matched it (or beat it), lay it on your boss's desk and let him/her decide what they want to do. Nothing says you need to be compensated more fairly than finding someone who will pay you more, and who will agree to it on paper. That's playing the game by their own dirty rules. The market will decide.

[Fishindude77]

I never sat on your side of the desk as I was self employed, however the number of employees that actually ever asked for a sit down discussion and asked for more money was few and far between.
Call a meeting and ask for what you want. You may get some responsibilities added, but that's usually not a big deal.

If you are so sure of your abilities and the market, be prepared to walk if you don't get what you want.

[disneysteve]

It also sounds like this isn't just about money. You might tolerate the job better if they upped your pay but would you actually like it any better? I'm thinking not.

Buff up your resume and start scrolling through Indeed and send out applications. And don't be turned away by a listing that asks for a specific skill you don't necessarily have. Job listings are often pie in the sky, written to describe their absolutely ideal candidate, but most will hire someone who checks off a few of the main boxes and be willing to train a quality person to do the other stuff.

[Starry436]

I definitely need to revamp my resume, suck up the fear of a job change and just get to it. I just really despise the fact that I tried numerous times to make my current employer work and it just hasn't. Now I'm left having to be the one to step out of my comfort zone and move on. I often think about how I went from being so excited that a company would create a position for me to stay, only to not do anything more with it than assign a title to it. Then they're looking at me like, why are you unsatisfied and ungrateful, we gave you a title? And I'm looking at them like, are you serious? I was even told that "young people just want to move too fast and don't want to work their way up". I was baffled because I wasn't the one who asked for the position. I was leaving for another position that valued my prior experience and degree plus offered a higher salary.

I've had more than one polite, awkward conversation with my boss and my bosses boss, and each time left feeling hopeful only for the same routine to resume a few weeks later. I'm tired of that duped feeling. I've finally come to realize if they had any real interest in keeping me I think it would have shown by now. It's clear to me that my boss just wants someone to fill the seat who will come in, do the same tasks everyday without questioning anything. I can't work in an environment any longer where I have to dumb myself down in order to keep the boss comfortable. It seems so backwards to me that anyone would want that. Money wouldn't completely fix it, but when there's no other incentives it's really the only thing I have to fall back on but it's clear I can't even get that either.

I'm grateful for a job, because I remember being even more lost than I am now but the stress has been taking a toll on me for a while. I've done all I can do at this point to attempt to make it work but with my current boss and this company's setup, the environment isn't conducive anymore with my career goals. The longer I wait, the more I feel I'm going stale to the job market and just overall becoming more miserable as a person when I'm there. But I gotta say, I've never felt more confused than I do now. I legitimately just wanted to do a job well, and feel appreciated for that.

[disneysteve]

I could have written that last post myself about 3 years ago.

Move on. You owe it to yourself and you’ll thank yourself for it later.

[mumof2]

time to move onwards and upwards...find something that challenges you and where people appreciate you....good luck I wish you the best it is a big move but I think worth it

[Starry436]

I could have written that last post myself about 3 years ago.

Move on. You owe it to yourself and you’ll thank yourself for it later.

I've known I've needed to do this for a while, just kept thinking it would work out. I was wrong so you're right, time to move on. Thank you for your advice, I know I had a little venting there but it felt good to get it out and realize it's time for a new chapter.

[Starry436]

time to move onwards and upwards...find something that challenges you and where people appreciate you....good luck I wish you the best it is a big move but I think worth it

Thank you, it will definitely be uncomfortable at first but it's necessary at this point.

[~bs]

Are you doing extra work? How long have you been in the position? If your answers are what I think they might be, then you're getting an inflation raise plus small increase for your experience. If you really want to move up in pay, you need to take more responsibility or supervise.

I supervise a pretty wide range of staff from management down to clerks, and grant promotions/raises/bonuses on merit. I have a younger clerk who only started 2 years ago, and she outperforms her more experienced peers. For 2019, her base wage increase was 12%.and her bonus was 6% of total salary. OTOH, I have employees that do mediocre work and get mediocre raises, mostly across the board raises only and small performance bonuses. It's tough to find top 10% employees at any level, but when you do, you better make sure to compensate them for the value of the work they're doing or you will lose them. A couple top performing employees is better than a dozen laggards and screwups. (sorry I guess I went off on a bit of a tangent. Not calling you a screwup)

[~bs]

I definitely need to revamp my resume, suck up the fear of a job change and just get to it. I just really despise the fact that I tried numerous times to make my current employer work and it just hasn't. Now I'm left having to be the one to step out of my comfort zone and move on. I often think about how I went from being so excited that a company would create a position for me to stay, only to not do anything more with it than assign a title to it. Then they're looking at me like, why are you unsatisfied and ungrateful, we gave you a title? And I'm looking at them like, are you serious? I was even told that "young people just want to move too fast and don't want to work their way up". I was baffled because I wasn't the one who asked for the position. I was leaving for another position that valued my prior experience and degree plus offered a higher salary.

I've had more than one polite, awkward conversation with my boss and my bosses boss, and each time left feeling hopeful only for the same routine to resume a few weeks later. I'm tired of that duped feeling. I've finally come to realize if they had any real interest in keeping me I think it would have shown by now. It's clear to me that my boss just wants someone to fill the seat who will come in, do the same tasks everyday without questioning anything. I can't work in an environment any longer where I have to dumb myself down in order to keep the boss comfortable. It seems so backwards to me that anyone would want that. Money wouldn't completely fix it, but when there's no other incentives it's really the only thing I have to fall back on but it's clear I can't even get that either.

I'm grateful for a job, because I remember being even more lost than I am now but the stress has been taking a toll on me for a while. I've done all I can do at this point to attempt to make it work but with my current boss and this company's setup, the environment isn't conducive anymore with my career goals. The longer I wait, the more I feel I'm going stale to the job market and just overall becoming more miserable as a person when I'm there. But I gotta say, I've never felt more confused than I do now. I legitimately just wanted to do a job well, and feel appreciated for that.

You're pretty much paid whatever your bosses think youre worth, and given whatever attention your bosses think youre worth. If you think you're worth more, then you're free to look around and prove it. That's the beauty of at will employment.

If you're pretty well experienced in your field, now is probably a good time to start looking. Due to the healthy economy and stockmarket, the baby boomers are leaving the workforce in droves, leaving a lot of vacancies at many companies. Some companies are desperate for qualified people. One of my peers tried to entice me into working for her company, which would be quarter mil/year plus stock options. I told her no thanks, I didnt need the extra stresses of working for a publicly traded company, the crazy hours and stresses, and immediate sink or swim test.