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  • #46
    Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
    That could be seen as a flawed argument, though.

    Indoor plumbing isn't a need for survival but I don't see too many folks who still use outhouses.

    The same could be said for a number of other modern inventions.

    They may not be needs in the very strictest sense of the word, but for all practical purposes, they are needed to function in a modern society.
    Though I agree with your arguement, I would not quite compare it to plumbing. Phone service is beginning to become an expensive toy/tool and one, IMO, that could in most cases be labeled a want for debt reduction purposes.

    My total phone services needed: 57.00 (business) want: 125.00 (home and cells) What's crazy is; my wife would give up a leg to keep her cell.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by maat55 View Post
      Phone service is beginning to become an expensive toy/tool and one, IMO, that could in most cases be labeled a want for debt reduction purposes.
      With this, I totally agree. I consider basic home phone service to be a need (yes you could survive without one but I don't think anyone should).

      I consider a cell phone to be a want unless it is required for your job or it is your only phone in which case it had better be less expensive than a basic land line or else it goes back to being a want.

      No matter what, all added services are wants. That includes caller ID, call waiting, call forwarding, voice messaging, texting (except for the hearing-impaired), etc.
      Steve

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      • #48
        Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
        With this, I totally agree. I consider basic home phone service to be a need (yes you could survive without one but I don't think anyone should).

        I consider a cell phone to be a want unless it is required for your job or it is your only phone in which case it had better be less expensive than a basic land line or else it goes back to being a want.

        No matter what, all added services are wants. That includes caller ID, call waiting, call forwarding, voice messaging, texting (except for the hearing-impaired), etc.
        Getting rid of an home phone would be a last resort decision, it depends on how badly one needs to cut their budget to survive. In a harsh economy where food is tough to afford, my phone would go.

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        • #49
          Dude bottom line, the OP should leave themselves a way to call 911.

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          • #50
            Wow, does anyone remember police phone boxes in urban areas? In the city near where I grew up, they were mounted on utility poles all over town. The public was allowed to use them to call for the police, fire department, or an ambulance, though they were primarily for police use. Children reviewed in first, second, and third grades how to make emergency calls from home (dial "0" for the phone company operator who would make the appropriate calls or connections!) and also were told that they could use the police phone in an emergency. Police phone boxes always seemed important yet mysterious, something which commanded a little awe. My memory of that is from the mid 1960s.
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            • #51
              whoops.
              Last edited by Joan.of.the.Arch; 01-27-2009, 08:50 PM. Reason: Duplicate post.
              "There is some ontological doubt as to whether it may even be possible in principle to nail down these things in the universe we're given to study." --text msg from my kid

              "It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." --Frederick Douglass

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              • #52
                yes it is... a consider it useful and very valuable.... I work far from my hometown and I always use my phone to contact my family and for emergency cases

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                • #53
                  maat, that's why I said texting, data plan, etc is a want. But a need is a basic phone line if it is cellular or home phone. Notice you labeled your business phone a need.

                  So like someone who telecommutes it's a need.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                    maat, that's why I said texting, data plan, etc is a want. But a need is a basic phone line if it is cellular or home phone. Notice you labeled your business phone a need.

                    So like someone who telecommutes it's a need.
                    I'm not sure where we disagree, I have agreed that it is a want to some and a need to others. If you had to choose between food or phone or utilities or phone or shelter or phone, to some this may be the difference between slowly going bankrupt.

                    If you have to ask the question wether it is a need or want, it may be a want.

                    You don't have to pay for a cell phone to call 911. I do have to have a phone to do business, I don't have to have one at home. But it would be the last thing to go before food, utilities and shelter.

                    I'm not dictating anyone elses circumstance, it can be either. I can't be any clearer than this.

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                    • #55
                      I see it as a need if you live at home and telecommute. Or if you run a business from home. No phone = no income, although you could live on govt dole. So technically you don't have to work to survive.

                      I think that the problem is the person is trying to cut corners and asking what can I cut? And a phone is not a need if you don't use it for work. It's a want.

                      You can theoretically borrow a phone to call 911. But if your livelyhood depended on a phone? Like I mentioned want a doctor to have a phone right?

                      In the past maybe that's why people died young, medical care couldn't be gotten to quickly.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                        In the past maybe that's why people died young, medical care couldn't be gotten to quickly.
                        I don't think the lack of a phone was a significant issue. I think a much bigger issue was that there really wasn't much of anything the doctor could do when he did come. Most modern medical treatments have only been around for less than 100 years and most are far newer than that.
                        Steve

                        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by frito833 View Post
                          I have considered that option Steve. What company and plan do you recommend? Not sure which company, but I heard there's one where you prepay the minutes and the phone is only $20.
                          Frito, I have the T-Mobile prepaid service. I just pay $25 whenever I run out of minutes. You don't have to pay $25 a month like some prepaid plans. I can pay $25 once a year if I want. My minutes last for a year and they roll over if I purchase more minutes.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post

                            You can theoretically borrow a phone to call 911. But if your livelyhood depended on a phone? Like I mentioned want a doctor to have a phone right?

                            In the past maybe that's why people died young, medical care couldn't be gotten to quickly.

                            I think a lot of times then, women in the family would do basic medical remedy since not a lot of advance medical knowledge were available and the men would burn the house down if there was a disease like small pox and the like. Family depended on each other and most likely stayed closer together. If everyone did not have a phone, I am sure they had some sort of system going on unless they were in the wilderness. I cannot help to wonder if the more advance medical help were more available to the wealthy at that time as well.

                            Today we are less co-dependent on others and have abundance in resources.

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                            • #59
                              Every time I see this thread title in the list, I think it says "Is the iPhone considered a need" and I think of a certain Corvette post...

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