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  • i hope Trump can bring jobs back

    went to a child's birthday party last night and looked at the fine print on a package of Chips Ahoy cookies and a can of Lays potato chips.... MADE IN MEXICO its sickening we cant even make the simplest things here anymore, dont remember the last time that i put on a shirt made in the USA

    i hope he can make America great again
    retired in 2009 at the age of 39 with less than 300K total net worth

  • #2
    I'm curious. What do you think the President (or government in general) can do to make a major corporation move their facilities from Mexico to the US?
    Steve

    * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
    * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
    * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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    • #3
      especially when the majority of that President's earnings come from businesses he has overseas

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FLA View Post
        especially when the majority of that President's earnings come from businesses he has overseas
        Just to be clear, my question wasn't intended to bash Trump. I don't believe he can bring overseas jobs back to the US anymore than I believe Clinton could do it. I don't think it can be done. I think candidates love to "promise" that and that voters love to hear it, but I think it's all fantasy.

        Those jobs are gone. Unless you can find a ton of Americans willing to work for the same kind of wages that their foreign counterparts are earning (which would mean eliminating minimum wage laws) and you can get rid of all of the onerous safety regulations and wipe out the insurance costs and the legal fees that companies have to pay to operate in the US, those jobs are gone. And I don't think bringing them back under those conditions would be a good thing.
        Steve

        * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
        * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
        * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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        • #5
          Come to Ann Arbor and if you have manufacturing skills, I'm hiring. Also need design engineers, marketing, sales and quality people. Some of my requests have been open for over a year. Up here in SE Michigan, it is very much an employee's market. If you have the right skills. Not sure what's going on in the rest of the U.S., but up here there is great demand.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tomhole View Post
            Come to Ann Arbor and if you have manufacturing skills, I'm hiring. Also need design engineers, marketing, sales and quality people. Some of my requests have been open for over a year.
            I hear this from employers in all fields here in NJ, too. They have positions they just can't fill. Either applicants can't pass a drug test or they hire someone and then the workers constantly come in late or don't show up at all. If they do show up, they spend more time goofing off then working and need to be let go. I know one guy with a small trucking company who had to turn down contracts and sell off one of his trucks because he couldn't find a dependable worker to operate it.
            Steve

            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
              I hear this from employers in all fields here in NJ, too. They have positions they just can't fill. Either applicants can't pass a drug test or they hire someone and then the workers constantly come in late or don't show up at all. If they do show up, they spend more time goofing off then working and need to be let go. I know one guy with a small trucking company who had to turn down contracts and sell off one of his trucks because he couldn't find a dependable worker to operate it.
              Spot on. We plan for a 40% fallout on new manufacturing hourly hires for just the reasons you describe. That gets expensive.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tomhole View Post
                Spot on. We plan for a 40% fallout on new manufacturing hourly hires for just the reasons you describe. That gets expensive.
                I was on a cruise a while ago. We were speaking with a senior member of the crew and asked why there are virtually no Americans in the crew even though the ships sail from the US with a US clientele. He said that a few years ago, they hired several hundred US workers. By the end of the first cruise, half of them quit. By the end of the month (4 cruises), they had all quit. There's the problem in a nutshell.
                Steve

                * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                • #9
                  Same story in all skilled trades. The average age of skilled tradesmen is in the 50s and rising, and not near enough young folks entering the trades to fill the demand.

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                  • #10
                    A Presideht cannot create jobs.

                    What he CAN do is "grease the skids" to help boost hiring through:

                    - eliminating unfair trade and currency manipulation, both of which China is a major violator.

                    - lowering the corporate income tax so that it isn't the highest on the world.

                    - slashing onerous regulations

                    - opening up the keystone pipeline and ANWAR to fully divorce ourselves of energy dependence of rogue nations.


                    He can also use his bully pulpit to preach accountability, work ethic, and patriotism, three things that our socialist leaning president loathed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TexasHusker View Post
                      A Presideht cannot create jobs.

                      What he CAN do is "grease the skids" to help boost hiring through:

                      - eliminating unfair trade and currency manipulation, both of which China is a major violator.

                      - lowering the corporate income tax so that it isn't the highest on the world.


                      He can also use his bully pulpit to preach accountability, work ethic, and patriotism, three things that our socialist leaning president loathed.

                      1. Many manufactures are moving out of China due to raising wages and increased standard of living in China. It's no longer the third world country it used to be. This is why you see an increase of goods made in Mexico, Bangladesh, India, Philippines and Vietnam. Also nations with no current manipulation also took manufacturing jobs away so...

                      As Steve said, it's a matter of expense. You can either put a huge Tariff on goods coming back into the U.S or charge an exit tax to force companies to stay within the U.S..either way the goods you buy will go WAY up. The cost of making the same stuff animal is 3-4x if made in the U.S vs third world. So how much exit tax can you tax in order to force corporations to stay? 60% of their profit? 50%?.

                      2. I have posted a pretty extensive answer to why lowering or increasing corporate taxes doesn't matter because corporation don't pay them. In fact lowering corporate taxes will have CEOs pocket more money vs occurring more expenses to offset taxes(expenses=reinvestment=job creation).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Singuy View Post
                        1. Many manufactures are moving out of China due to raising wages and increased standard of living in China. It's no longer the third world country it used to be. This is why you see an increase of goods made in Mexico, Bangladesh, India, Philippines and Vietnam. Also nations with no current manipulation also took manufacturing jobs away so...

                        As Steve said, it's a matter of expense. You can either put a huge Tariff on goods coming back into the U.S or charge an exit tax to force companies to stay within the U.S..either way the goods you buy will go WAY up. The cost of making the same stuff animal is 3-4x if made in the U.S vs third world. So how much exit tax can you tax in order to force corporations to stay? 60% of their profit? 50%?.

                        2. I have posted a pretty extensive answer to why lowering or increasing corporate taxes doesn't matter because corporation don't pay them. In fact lowering corporate taxes will have CEOs pocket more money vs occurring more expenses to offset taxes(expenses=reinvestment=job creation).
                        Didn't say my suggestions were a fix-all. But they are a start.

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                        • #13
                          Manufacturing jobs are crappy and can be replaced by either someone from the third world or a robot. Stop romanticizing that time when you can just graduate with a C- from HS and work at your local plant and then retire with a good pension. Those days are GONE. Stop looking around you for scapegoats and start looking at yourself.

                          Since when is everyone nowadays looking for handouts? Easy to get good paying jobs that doesn't exist(but you want it to) are handouts too! Just because you don't want to sit at home collecting food stamps doesn't make you any less of a socialist (instead of eating people's tax money..you want everyone to buy goods that are 3-4x more expensive just so you can have a pension and 30 dollars/hr without having to go to school).
                          Last edited by Singuy; 11-18-2016, 11:46 AM.

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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE=TexasHusker;443372]A Presideht cannot create jobs.

                            What he CAN do is "grease the skids" to help boost hiring through:



                            - slashing onerous regulations

                            QUOTE]

                            Telling how and where corporations can offset their main expense(payroll) is a HUGE regulation. Forget about following the rules for the environment's sake..no corporation can survive if they were told what type of people they must hire (and in this case, you must hire within the U.S where employees come with baggage's of expenses not required in third world countries. ).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                              I'm curious. What do you think the President (or government in general) can do to make a major corporation move their facilities from Mexico to the US?
                              lower corporate tax rates

                              deregulation
                              Gunga galunga...gunga -- gunga galunga.

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