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  • Am I Budgeting ?

    I have never liked the idea of budgeting and frankly I think its overcomplicated. About five years ago I decided to do something different with my finances around automating it and it has worked tremendously. Here is what I have done:

    -I allocated two types of expenses: fixed and discretionary. The fixed bills (rent, storage, phone, TV, Insurance) are constant each month: $1,574. The discretionary (gas, groceries, entertainment, household, dining out, charity, etc.) total $1,500. I stick to these totals each and every month of the year (they are locked in).

    -I established Checking Account #2 for Fixed; Checking Account #1 for discretionary. My bi-weekly paycheck is split to allocate $750 into Checking Account #1. The remainder of my paycheck and my wife's paycheck goes to Checking Account #2, where every fixed bill is automatically taken out of the account each month. No other expenses except monthly Savings are taken from Checking Account #2.

    -So, we live off $750 each paycheck for 2 weeks until I get paid again...yes, we are essentially living paycheck to paycheck.

    The benefit with this method is that we spend whatever we want to spend every time I get paid as long as it doesn't exceed $750 every two weeks. We actually have it outlined as to what makes up the $1,500 a month, but we don't care. We know we have $750 to spend max. This approach creates a lot of flexibility to do what we want with our cash. It also avoids envelop systems while eliminating tracking. At the conclusion of each pay period, we just transfer any remaining money over to Savings. The benefits of Checking Account #2 is that I have the inflows and outflow in a spreadsheet and I can see how much money I will have in the account any date of the upcoming year since the inflows and outflows are constant each month.

    This approach has worked for me. I am currently saving about 55% of my gross income and not overspending; however my question is: Am I really budgeting here ?

  • #2
    Technically yes. Yes you are. A budget is a spending plan, and you've got one.

    Now I also believe your budget is too general to be of great value. You are missing out on a lot of value by being so vague.

    Because think of this - you're cutting it close each month. What are the main expenses that you could cut back to improve your finances?

    You have no idea, because you aren't specific enough.


    Having said that, you're also not spending more than you make, because you have some dollar limits in place. Your budget is helping, just not as much as it could.


    You dont have to be too specific (canned food, frozen food, fresh food, snacks, fast food, restaurants, etc.). That's no good either, because it takes too much time. But you should have a budget for "food"

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    • #3
      Yes, I used to do that, still do for the most part. It's laziness and honestly it's not a bad way to live. I have a couple of categories I track and follow but not much, and it's more to guess if i'm overspending. But I rarely curb spending because i just take from another category.
      LivingAlmostLarge Blog

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      • #4
        Just to verify, you're saying that you save 55% and then spend the rest via two checking accounts?

        Sounds fine to me!

        We do a similar thing. We save first -- 401ks, IRAs, taxable investing for retirement, savings accounts for shorter-term goals -- and then we spend the rest. We don't care what we spend it on because we have determined that we are saving enough to meet our goals.

        If you have the self control to not rob Peter to pay Paul, it's a perfectly fine way to budget and save. (Disneysteve does the same thing, I believe.)

        Save enough, pay your bills, and spend the rest. That's how we do it!

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        • #5
          I think that you are doing just fine. Saving 55% is outstanding. I don't have a problem with flexibility and vagueness. I do something similar and it has worked great for me. I save a set amount and spend the rest as I please. If you were struggling and had a lot of debt, then I would say that you need to rethink your approach and pay more attention to the details. But, that doesn't seem to be the case. Carry on.
          Brian

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          • #6
            My husband and I eased into more rigorous budgeting doing something similar to what you're doing. We always felt we were both naturally pretty frugal and didn't think we'd save enough by budgeting to make it worth the effort. So, we kept two checking accounts, one for each of our paychecks, and figured out which monthly bills would come out of which paycheck, leaving some wiggle room for each of us to take care of some portion of the less predictable expenses. Whenever my husband built up extra money in his account, it went to savings, and whenever I built up extra money, it went on the mortgage. We made things work pretty well that way for about two years.

            But, I decided to put all of our accounts into Mint, and once I had everything in Mint, I found it very easy to use their tools to create a "budget" for us based on our past spending, so I did. For several months the budget wasn't a plan so much as a guess to what we would probably do with our money. But, eventually my husband started taking an interest in the "budget" in Mint and, we decided to start using it as a planning tool. We discovered that taking some time to work out a budget made it easier for us to see what we could and could not afford to do and to see what was and was not worth doing. We still have a big "everything else" line of $500 that catches things like gifts, clothing, eating out, and entertainment. So, I think we could be a little more complete with our budget. But, it's an evolving system, and what we do works for now.

            The way I see it, if you have a plan for your money, it's a budget, and if your plan is helping you to meet your goals, it's a useful budget. So, I would say your system amounts to a useful budget. That doesn't mean it's the most useful budget you could possibly have, but as long as it's working and you like it, I don't see any harm in sticking with it. Of course, it wouldn't hurt to try doing a more detailed budget just to see how much trouble it really is and to see if there's any value in it for you.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mcsmith76 View Post
              -So, we live off $750 each paycheck for 2 weeks until I get paid again...yes, we are essentially living paycheck to paycheck
              Sorry didn't see the saving 55% bit. I stopped reading here I guess.

              Living paycheck to paycheck means something much different to me. It means you're cutting it close each month and need each paycheck to buy your necessities. To me it doesn't mean you're saving 55% of your income.

              Given that you're saving so much, I agree you don't need to be more specific ( unless you just want to). Best of luck!

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              • #8
                I actually do the same thing. I tried using a budget with all the categories for a year or so and it just didn't really work for me. Have been doing this for a few months and it seems to be a lot better suited to my financial style.

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