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  • David Stockman: Epic downturn is here, brace for 40% market plunge

    Looks like the bears are getting more coverage these days. Sigh...its like a re-run of 2008.

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    David Stockman: Epic downturn is here, brace for 40% market plunge
    Stephanie Landsman | @stephlandsman
    Published 5:00 PM ET Sun, 4 Nov 2018 Updated 10 Hours Ago




    David Stockman warns a 40 percent stock market plunge is closing in on Wall Street.

    Stockman, who served as President Reagan's Office of Management and Budget director, has long warned of a deep downturn that would shake Wall Street's most bullish investors. He believes the early rumblings of that epic downturn are finally here.

    It comes as the S&P 500 Index tries to rebound from its worst month since 2011.

    "No one has outlawed recessions. We're within a year or two of one," he said Thursday on CNBC's "Futures Now." He added that: "fair value of the S&P going into the next recession is well below 2000, 1500 — way below where we are today."

    This is far from the first time he's issued a dire warning. But this time, he suggests the latest leg down is an early tremor of the pain that lies ahead.

    "If you're a rational investor, you need only two words in your vocabulary: Trump and sell," said Stockman, in a reference to President Donald Trump. "He's playing with fire at the very top of an aging expansion."

    According to Stockman, Trump's efforts to get the Federal Reserve to put the brakes on hiking interest rates from historical lows is misdirected.

    "He's attacking the Fed for going too quick when it's been dithering for eight years. The funds rate at 2.13 percent is still below inflation," he said.

    Stockman cited the trade war as another major reason why investors should brace for a prolonged sell-off.

    "The trade war is not remotely rational," he said. If the dispute worsens, it "is going to hit the whole goods economy with inflation like you've never seen before because China supplies about 30 percent of the goods in the categories we import."

    His latest thoughts came as stocks will try to build on last week's rebound. The S&P 500 gained 2.4 percent the week ending Nov. 2. However, the index is still down 6.9 percent over the past month.

    "We're going to be in a recession, and we're going to have another market correction which will be pretty brutal," Stockman said.

    The White House didn't respond to CNBC for a comment on Stockman's remarks.

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    Last edited by james.hendrickson; 11-05-2018, 04:24 PM.
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  • #2
    I've been seeing stories like this since I began investing. For every one of these stories there is one that predicts a 40% increase. Bottom line is no one really knows for sure. Keep investing on a regular basis and stay the course.
    Brian

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    • #3
      Nobody knows nothin'

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      • #4
        From what I have been hearing, the sour market sentiment has more to do with the Fed's decision increase interest rates. IF that is true-- and I can't emphasize enough that I don't really know one way or another-- then I see no reason to be worried about it. Consider it more of a buying opportunity.

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        • #5
          Look, at some point the people predicting a recession will be right. They have to be eventually. Recessions are a normal part of the economic cycle. Of course, nobody actually knows when the next one will strike. In fact, a recession can really only be "predicted" after the fact because the GDP has to decline for at least 2 consecutive quarters to qualify, so the only way to determine when a recession began is at least 6 months after it actually started.
          Steve

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