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  • #1

    When did the Bull Market Start?

    The increase in threads/conversations/comments about the market being at an all time high (again) has me wondering when this bull market started - assuming this is a bull market.

    I read somewhere else that one person thought the bull market didn't start until 2013 or so.

    What do you think?
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    2009
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    2010
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    2011
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    2012
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    2015
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    2016
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    This isn't a bull market yet
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  • #2
    According to the numbers, it started in 2009. I'm not sure why anyone would say it didn't start until 4 years later. What exactly do they consider the rise from 2009-2013?
    Steve

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    • #3
      I should try to find that comment but it's buried somewhere on the internet.

      Maybe they were saying that from 2009 to ~2013 it took the market that long to recover to the pre-2008/2009 levels?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jluke View Post
        Maybe they were saying that from 2009 to ~2013 it took the market that long to recover to the pre-2008/2009 levels?
        That's irrelevant. A bull market isn't defined by when it gets back to a previous level. A bull market simply means a period of steadily rising prices. So from the market low in early 2009, prices have been consistently trending upward without any significant correction.
        Steve

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        • #5
          Eh....

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          • #6
            Which bull market?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
              According to the numbers, it started in 2009. I'm not sure why anyone would say it didn't start until 4 years later. What exactly do they consider the rise from 2009-2013?
              I would assume that they would discount those years because the market was doing nothing but recovering to what it was before 2008.

              It all depends on what the official definition of a bull market is ..

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Save View Post
                It all depends on what the official definition of a bull market is ..
                There's no "official" definition but a bull market generally refers to a period of steadily rising prices. That certainly occurred from 2009-2013 and has continued ever since. It's inaccurate to say the bull market didn't start until the market recovered to it's pre-2008 level.
                Steve

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                • #9
                  I'd love to hear from the person who thinks there has not been a bull market for the past 8 years.
                  Steve

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                  • #10
                    What is a 'Bull Market'

                    A bull market is a financial market of a group of securities in which prices are rising or are expected to rise. The term "bull market" is most often used to refer to the stock market but can be applied to anything that is traded, such as bonds, currencies and commodities.

                    BREAKING DOWN 'Bull Market'
                    Bull markets are characterized by optimism, investor confidence and expectations that strong results should continue. It is difficult to predict consistently when the trends in the market might change. Part of the difficulty is that psychological effects and speculation may sometimes play a large role in the markets.

                    http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bullmarket.asp



                    So there was optimism in the market in 2009? not from what I remember.

                    Currently, some people think/feel/believe the market has run its course and is ready to crash SOON so they are staying out.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jluke View Post
                      What is a 'Bull Market'

                      A bull market is a financial market of a group of securities in which prices are rising or are expected to rise. The term "bull market" is most often used to refer to the stock market but can be applied to anything that is traded, such as bonds, currencies and commodities.

                      BREAKING DOWN 'Bull Market'
                      Bull markets are characterized by optimism, investor confidence and expectations that strong results should continue. It is difficult to predict consistently when the trends in the market might change. Part of the difficulty is that psychological effects and speculation may sometimes play a large role in the markets.

                      http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bullmarket.asp



                      So there was optimism in the market in 2009? not from what I remember.

                      Currently, some people think/feel/believe the market has run its course and is ready to crash SOON so they are staying out.

                      That was my point earlier... if a bull market .. is just prices going up . .then of course it started in 2009 .. but if a bull market is the overall optimisim of investors , that's a little harder to pin point..

                      At the end of the day .. it really doesn't matter.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Captain Save View Post
                        That was my point earlier... if a bull market .. is just prices going up . .then of course it started in 2009 .. but if a bull market is the overall optimisim of investors , that's a little harder to pin point..

                        At the end of the day .. it really doesn't matter.
                        Exactly! I'm just half hoping to help those who think they can time the market and are hanging on the sidelines in cash. Afraid to invest because they think the market is going to crash any day now.

                        If an average bull market is 7 years (?) then maybe this one will go on to 2020 or so. But we really don't know so most of us continue to invest and tune out the noise.

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