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  • It's been 121 days since I submitted the paperwork for my refi

    I got a GREAT rate to re-fi two of my rental properties. I used this CU when I purchased my primary last august and then again to refi in May of this year (soon I know, but I dropped a point and a half and 10 years). So anyway I completed the paperwork at the end of July. He told me at the time it would be a while because they were getting way more applications than they could process. No big deal - worth it for 2.5%. So end of sept. rolls around and I check in to see if he has an idea on closing yet. 90-120 days. :O Holy cow. Ok no worries - I can't beat that rate, the appraisals are done, I know this CU is good for it because I've worked with them before.

    So here I am at the end of November and I'm really running out of patience. I checked in with my lender 3 weeks ago and asked if we had a closing date and noted the days I'd be out of town around the holiday. He said not yet, but they'll start underwriting your loan in the next couple weeks. All this time they've locked my rate at their expense. How long do I just keep waiting? I'm going to be so livid if they end up backing out or not closing and I have to go find a new lender after all this time. I imagine it doesn't do any good to give ultimatums to a bank but I kind of want to send a final email and say if we don't have a closing date by Dec. 1 I'm going to find a new lender. Downside is I had planned to cash out the equity on my 4 plex and I will never find someone else to do that rate and also the appraisals are expensive - like $800+. In hindsight, its positively absurd that there is no mutually beneficial language in the lending agreement that puts the lender on the hook for the borrowers incurred costs if they can't close within a reasonable amount of time. I don't know what my next step is... any advice?

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    Personally, I'd just stick it out. We always refi at rock bottom, so have often been in this situation (due to the stampede). Sometimes it take a really freaking long time. We did start a refi in 2020 (backed out for other reasons). I was very kind and patient, they were clearly working 24/7 and it was still going to take months. I just knew they were working as fast as humanly possible. I think I also ended up somewhat at the front of the line as an existing CU customer with an incredibly simple refi. (They told me it was basically more of a no-doc loan). It was still going to take at least 3 months due to the backlog. (I think she told 60 days at first? I rolled my eyes and thought, "Whatever." There was no way that loan was ever going to close in 60 days. Not while interest rates were "lower than they have ever been.").

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    • #3
      P.S. Squeaky wheel always gets the grease. I'd just get real squeaky, it might help move things along.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MonkeyMama View Post
        Personally, I'd just stick it out. We always refi at rock bottom, so have often been in this situation (due to the stampede). Sometimes it take a really freaking long time. We did start a refi in 2020 (backed out for other reasons). I was very kind and patient, they were clearly working 24/7 and it was still going to take months. I just knew they were working as fast as humanly possible. I think I also ended up somewhat at the front of the line as an existing CU customer with an incredibly simple refi. (They told me it was basically more of a no-doc loan). It was still going to take at least 3 months due to the backlog. (I think she told 60 days at first? I rolled my eyes and thought, "Whatever." There was no way that loan was ever going to close in 60 days. Not while interest rates were "lower than they have ever been.").
        Thanks. I guess I really don't have any issue with sticking it out, I'm just going to be really disappointed if they don't end up closing for one reason or another and then I missed out because I was too patient. Frustrating that I have absolutely no recourse if they end up being the ones to back out.

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        • #5
          I generally agree with MM .... Stick it out, but push them to communicate. Also leverage your existing relationship with the CU. They may not have the documents ready now, but perhaps you can get them to put a stake in the ground & set a target date for closing. That would also help you with being patient, knowing the end is in sight.

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          • #6
            Rental properties are a PITA for lenders and because of all the low rates .. lenders are extremely busy .. many are scrambling to hire new people. And trust me at 121 days the lender is on the hook for a lot of the cost, They might not communicate it with you but it's getting less and less profitable for them by the day. Going with another lender will not only hurt your rate but if ti's a conventional loan ..you might incur the adverse fee.

            That's another thing , they might be eating the cost of the adverse fee as well which might as well make your transaction a loss for them... Backign out might your officer but not the lender itself.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by riverwed070707 View Post

              Thanks. I guess I really don't have any issue with sticking it out, I'm just going to be really disappointed if they don't end up closing for one reason or another and then I missed out because I was too patient. Frustrating that I have absolutely no recourse if they end up being the ones to back out.
              Yeah, it's definitely stressful and frustrating!

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