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    Four or five years ago, I decided not to buy a stock ever again if it did not pay a high dividend. In the time since, my portfolio's book value has gone from $143,000 to well over $320,000. A huge amount of the increase has come from reinvesting dividends.

    How about you? How important are dividends in your investing strategy?

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    VIG is what I use in large cap space

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    • #3
      More info, please!

      Originally posted by jIM_Ohio View Post
      VIG is what I use in large cap space
      Enlighten me... what is VIG?

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      • #4
        I don't invest specifically with dividends in mind but I do reinvest them which really helps over time with growth of the balance and compounding.
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        • #5
          My friend works for Merrill Lynch and converted me to a believer in dividend stocks when he showed me the importance of dividends in overall returns. In my cash account I look for 5-10 great dividend stocks and rebalance annually or so.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Retired To Win View Post
            Four or five years ago, I decided not to buy a stock ever again if it did not pay a high dividend. In the time since, my portfolio's book value has gone from $143,000 to well over $320,000. A huge amount of the increase has come from reinvesting dividends.

            How about you? How important are dividends in your investing strategy?

            Retired To Win
            making the most of my time and my money
            I'm glad your strategy has been successful. Have you considered the fact that stocks in general have done very well over the past 5 years? According to Morningstar, the 5 year trailing return of the S & P 500 ending 12/20/13 is 17.98%. If 143k is invested at 17.98%, 5 years later the investment grows to $326,872.21.



            So is your success due primarily to a dividend strategy, or to a rising market?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Retired To Win View Post
              Enlighten me... what is VIG?

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              VIG is Vanguard Dividend Appreciation ETF.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Petunia 100 View Post
                I'm glad your strategy has been successful. Have you considered the fact that stocks in general have done very well over the past 5 years? According to Morningstar, the 5 year trailing return of the S & P 500 ending 12/20/13 is 17.98%. If 143k is invested at 17.98%, 5 years later the investment grows to $326,872.21.



                So is your success due primarily to a dividend strategy, or to a rising market?

                In my case, it's the dividends specifically. Also, 5 years ago no one could know that the market would average an 18% return per year.* But you could project your portfolio's book value growth from the dividends it would generate.

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                • #9
                  I've been so alarmed by Bond rates and the plan to increase interest rates which will significantly lower my Bond MF value, I've been shifting sums that would have been allocated to 'Income' to Dividend ETFs. Banks here are strong, operate under stringent rules, pay significant dividends while still increasing value. I've also benefitted from American and International Dividend MFs. I'm looking for a reasonably priced {MER} Euro Dividend Fund for my next contribution.

                  We just got Vanguard last year but it's like pulling hen's teeth to get access. I'll transfer non retirement allocation when it finally gets listed for my self managed account.

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                  • #10
                    The dividend payout does not by itself lead to an increase in investible surplus particularly if the purchases are through the secondary market. The dividend only helps in separating the performers from the laggards. I would pick up the list of stocks or mutual funds paying out dividends and then do my own research and work out P/E ratio, look up past history, read their management discussion and analysis, look up research reports and then invest in stocks/ mutual funds.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Retired To Win View Post
                      In my case, it's the dividends specifically. Also, 5 years ago no one could know that the market would average an 18% return per year.* But you could project your portfolio's book value growth from the dividends it would generate.

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                      *Hindsight is always 20/20
                      Agreed, only hindsight is 20/20.

                      I can see the merit of investing for dividends with part of one's portfolio if one is in the distribution phase. Having a reliable income stream of dividends can be a very important part of one's retirement plan.

                      However, I don't see the merit of investing for dividends in the accumulation phase. In my opinion, total return is the bottom line. Whether that return comes from capital gains or from dividends is immaterial.

                      Currently, I am in the accumulation phase. So, I just stick with broad market index funds.

                      I know you put up a blog post recently providing more details about your investing strategy. I'm looking forward to reading it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Retired To Win View Post
                        Four or five years ago, I decided not to buy a stock ever again if it did not pay a high dividend. In the time since, my portfolio's book value has gone from $143,000 to well over $320,000. A huge amount of the increase has come from reinvesting dividends.

                        How about you? How important are dividends in your investing strategy?
                        I assume the context is equities? If so, then no, I do not consider dividends when choosing investments.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by disneysteve View Post
                          I don't invest specifically with dividends in mind but I do reinvest them which really helps over time with growth of the balance and compounding.
                          What about when you're deciding whether to sell a stock at a profit? Do you have the dividends (if any) in mind when deciding what price to sell at?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Retired To Win View Post
                            What about when you're deciding whether to sell a stock at a profit? Do you have the dividends (if any) in mind when deciding what price to sell at?
                            No. That has nothing at all to do with a decision to sell.

                            Selling is something I hardly ever do anyway. I'm investing, not trading. I buy and hold.

                            I do have a small account (about $5,000) that I sometimes use for trading, usually one stock at a time. Last year it was Apple. Right now, it is 3D Systems. But this is total speculation, not investing. I freely admit that. I consider it play money. If it goes up, that's great. If it goes down, oh well. But in no way do dividends enter into the decision making process.
                            Steve

                            * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                            * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                            * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                            • #15
                              i just inherited $170K in dividend stock bearing 4.2%, i plan to dump it all when its settled and buy another rental property. with a 4.2% dividend i am grossing $595 a month, i can buy a $150K rental property cash and gross $1100 a month
                              retired in 2009 at the age of 39 with less than 300K total net worth

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