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  • #16
    Most investments are not too difficult to understand but the changes are most often emotional rather than logical. The housing market is different because a property is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay and a seller is willing to accept. It is considered illiquid because it can take a long time to sell a property if there is no willing buyer. Your condo may have originally sold for $265,000 but someone suffered a loss if you were not willing to pay more than $150,000.

    If you check the figures, you will discover that your savings could have increased 7 - 10 percent had you sub-divided your savings into several segments including a couple of Exchange Traded Funds [ETF] in the last 12 months. Yes, you need an emergency fund but it needn't all be liquid as it takes only 3 business days from Sell order to $$$ in your linked chequeing account.

    Until you become more familiar with equities [stocks] or income [bond] you could invest in a good Index Mutual Fund [MF] like Vanguard who have low fees and a good reputation. MFs are flexible, you can add to the investment, transfer or even cash it out to invest in something else.

    Please understand that you needn't remain in a specific investment forever. I'm not a fan of Lifecycle funds as they seem to only benefit the salesmen who collect commissions and fees for the whole time you own the product. Before committing, ask the sales rep how they protected their client's during the 9/2008 - 2/2010 bust. How much value was lost during that particular time.

    You can look at some possibilities and discuss choices with others who are experienced and knowledgeable on this site.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Krieger View Post

      I'm not sure I am following what you are saying. I thought the housing market was at an all time low? And that for new buyers now is the time to buy because interest rates are dirt cheap? I bought my 4 bedroom townhouse last year for 150,000$ with an interest rate of 4.3% but when it was built in 2005 it sold for 265,000$. Not to mention I got the 8,000$ tax credit for being a first time buyer. That is my reasoning for wanting to get into real estate. The town houses in this area rent for FAR higher than my mortgage is. The way I see it, if I find another deal similar to my townhouse, I could literally make money pending I find someone to rent it, which doesn't seem to be a problem in this area.
      The lending guidelines for investment property are different than the guidelines for buying a primary residence. You will need a larger downpayment and you won't be borrowing at 4.3%. Additionally, if you are currently upside down in your home, then you must be able to pay both mortgage payments without counting rental income in order to qualify. If you are considering becoming a landlord, I suggest you save more money first and that you thoroughly investigate landlord/tenant laws in your state before jumping in.

      Your Lifecycle fund is an excellent choice! The TSP is the very best retirement vehicle in existence. The costs are almost zero, you won't find that deal anywhere else. You may want to consider supplementing it with a Roth IRA.

      You're off to a fine start! Keep learning about your finances, no one cares about them the way that you do.

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      • #18
        Some good investing books to consider:

        - The Elements of Investing: Burton Malkiel and Charles Ellis
        - The Little Book of Safe Money: Jason Zweig
        - The Investor's Manifesto: William J. Bernstein

        Robert Pitts
        Freedom Personal Finance, Lakeland FL

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        • #19
          Well, I suggest that you look into starting up a business. Choose one that will give you the most flexibility in time, since you will have to maintain this along with your current job.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Krieger View Post
            Thank you all for your advice. I'm really getting some good feedback. I know patience pays off but if I keep procrastinating investing, the money will never grow!
            When a person really have the courage to invest and the patience to take charge of something you wanted to 'grow', you will make it. Investing needs very basic factors. Besides financial aspect, courage and patience are best tool. Have those and you are sure to go. Find something that interests you and one that you like to do. It doesn't have to be grand, a little to start with is just fine. From there, you will get to know the next steps... plus a few help-tips from here and there. Goodluck!

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