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    A few things I have read on this forum and in the blogs made me recall an incident. I once had an acquaintence who was truly poor and had to retire on social security disability due to her arthritis, but she told me that crotcheting was good for the arthritis that was in her hands. I'd lent and given her small amounts of money for years, as even before she retired she made only nurse's aid wages and had children to support with no mate. Her crochet work was beautiful. I wanted to help her, but I did not want to turn into just the person who supplies her with money, so it seemed logical to buy custom-made afghans from her. She like the idea, and I paid in full ahead of time for the first one. I planned in my head to give afghans as presents and to give some of them to the womens' shelter. I was really enjoying the idea of the good and happiness that I imagined could come from this alliance. I figured I wanted to put about five percent of my income into this; it was a commitment on my part. If we kept the alliance for years, I could resell some of the afghans, but profit was not important too me. It could provide her with a significant addition to her small income.

    Well....it took forever for the first afghan to be finished, and when she finally brought it to me, it reeked of cigarets. It was made for a twin bed when I had paid for queen-size. It was very plain with no special techniques at all. Might as well have been machine made and $18 at Walmart. She told me the project had been really boring (that is why she made it samll) and that she was never going to sell the service of crochet again. She was annoyed and disgusted to have had to do this project. Message loud and clear! She should have just said no to making the afghan in the first place. She shouldn't have taken my money....I notice her other plans to sell baby sets (afghans, hats, booties, mittens) never went anywhere either.

    So have you ever tried to help some one monetarily and you both ended up unhappy about it?
    "There is some ontological doubt as to whether it may even be possible in principle to nail down these things in the universe we're given to study." --text msg from my kid

    "It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." --Frederick Douglass

  • #2
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    How thoughtful of you to do that, sorry it ending up being a sad experience.

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    • #3
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      Yap. Had my BIL's ex come to live with me for free the whole summer.

      When I tried to evict her, she tried to kill me. She took my cat with her.

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      • #4
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        Bought my daughter a new house. She met some guy and ran off with him, leaving me with the house and the payments.

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        • #5
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          geez... that's really sad for all of you... i've done some things (never had enough money for anything more than $100) and gotten burned too... it's made me more cautious.... ditto for DH.... so now we're a little more careful who we give to... we like being generous, but like ima, it's so much better when they deserve it... it makes me feel better to help others who at least understand our ways and don't ridicule us... like my sister.... she's always saying she's poor and needs money... since she lived far away and i was young and believed her i gave her $100 (which is a fortune when you're a teenage me with no allowance and much too frugal to buy myself anythingnew) and she was like "cool, i can pay my rent now".... come to recently find out (she moved here and i can now contrast her actions with her words) that she's the type who says she's poor and struggling and budgeting when she's shopping at Nordstrom's, Macy's, etc.... spending hundreds on hobbies all the while basking in the pity and approval of those who believe she's "poor, struggling and budgeting"....
          MIL and SIL are similar (claiming poorness but spending more than we do) and that's why i'm really, really careful about giving money now... it's kind of one of my pet peeves since we make way less, and spend way less but we don't complain about it and talk about how poor we are... instead we try to appreciate all the little pleasures in life and focus on our goals for the future...
          I've had a few pleasant experiences though and i think i'll post them on the other thread about helping others...

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          • #6
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            There is an old saying that no kindness ever goes unpunished. I have helped some people but I always do so with the idea that it may not turn out well.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by kealina
              geez... that's really sad for all of you... i've done some things (never had enough money for anything more than $100) and gotten burned too... it's made me more cautious.... ditto for DH.... so now we're a little more careful who we give to... we like being generous, but like ima, it's so much better when they deserve it... it makes me feel better to help others who at least understand our ways and don't ridicule us... like my sister.... she's always saying she's poor and needs money... since she lived far away and i was young and believed her i gave her $100 (which is a fortune when you're a teenage me with no allowance and much too frugal to buy myself anythingnew) and she was like "cool, i can pay my rent now".... come to recently find out (she moved here and i can now contrast her actions with her words) that she's the type who says she's poor and struggling and budgeting when she's shopping at Nordstrom's, Macy's, etc.... spending hundreds on hobbies all the while basking in the pity and approval of those who believe she's "poor, struggling and budgeting"....
              MIL and SIL are similar (claiming poorness but spending more than we do) and that's why i'm really, really careful about giving money now... it's kind of one of my pet peeves since we make way less, and spend way less but we don't complain about it and talk about how poor we are... instead we try to appreciate all the little pleasures in life and focus on our goals for the future...
              I've had a few pleasant experiences though and i think i'll post them on the other thread about helping others...
              It's amazing how some people view struggling, isn't it?

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              • #8
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                Yes, I too have had a few less than desirable outcomes...but thankfully, there have been MANY more that have made it all worthwhile.

                I suppose my bad experiences have been minor because I have never had a big amount to give...

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                • #9
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                  I felt so sorry for my daughter that I bought her a house, cars, furniture, paid all the bills, etc. Then when she ran off and I went to clean out her house, she had thousands of dollars worth of clothes, lots with the tags still on them. I filled a refrigerator box full of just sweaters!! That is a lot of sweaters. That was about 13 years ago, and she still has not changed. Buys clothes, but won't pay any bills.

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                  • #10
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                    As Blessed Mother Teresa once said, "Do good anyway."

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Ima saver
                      I felt so sorry for my daughter that I bought her a house, cars, furniture, paid all the bills, etc. Then when she ran off and I went to clean out her house, she had thousands of dollars worth of clothes, lots with the tags still on them. I filled a refrigerator box full of just sweaters!! That is a lot of sweaters. That was about 13 years ago, and she still has not changed. Buys clothes, but won't pay any bills.
                      Could you wear the clothes that she doesn't wear?

                      Once my hubby gave $200 (our monthly budget after rent and bills) to some panhandler. A week later the local newspaper ran an full-page article on THE SAME GUY telling us to watch out for him because he was really, really good at swindling money.

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                      • #12
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                        No, she weighs about 100 pounds more than me, obviously she has plenty of money for food!

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                        • #13
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                          psoted by Ima.- "No, she weighs about 100 pounds more than me, obviously she has plenty of money for food!"
                          hahahaha! you cracked me up with that one... funny how all the money somehow turns into fast food huh?

                          posted by lillyb - "It's amazing how some people view struggling, isn't it?"
                          boggles the mind... it's so directly opposite from how i was raised... sometimes i wonder if i should have been born in another decade since i'm so different (DH is too, we're two wierd peas in a pod) from others my age...

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                          • #14
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                            Seem like you have found a home here, kealina!!

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                            • #15
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                              ima, thanks... like the rest of you, i am really glad i found this place...

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