Economic state of your State or City?

[kork13]

California is looking to implement a 3 cent per mile tax due to the .59 cents gasoline tax dwindling away with the increase in EVs. Even though I hate this new tax it makes perfect sense for California at a new money grab to make EV owners pay their fair share.

Wait, 3¢ per mile?? As in you register your mileage with the state every year & get taxed on what you drove? For the average 12k mi/yr, that'd be $360/yr. On top of insane gas taxes? Woof, I'll never live in California.

[QuarterMillionMan]

It'll be a double whammy for ICE drivers having to continue buying gasoline w/the high gas tax in addition to the .03 cents per mile tax until ICE cars gets phased out. My livelihood requires driving and I drive 300 miles round trip for personal driving every week and sometimes 2x's a week. My annual driving is about 25,000 miles so double your estimate.

[ua_guy]

It'll be a double whammy for ICE drivers having to continue buying gasoline w/the high gas tax in addition to the .03 cents per mile tax until ICE cars gets phased out. My livelihood requires driving and I drive 300 miles round trip for personal driving every week and sometimes 2x's a week. My annual driving is about 25,000 miles so double your estimate.

The proposal is to eliminate the gas tax and replace it with the Road Charge program for all vehicles, ICE and EV. The average ICE owner spends about $300/year in CA fuel taxes, so the Road Charge per miles driven would roughly replace this, and it's equitable based on propulsion choice and annual miles driven.

It's not a bad proposal at face value.

[myrdale]

The Port of Savannah seems to be doing just fine.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/port-savannah-sets-record-march-surpassing-previous-milestones

[ua_guy]

The Port of Savannah seems to be doing just fine.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/por...ous-milestones

Yeah, so was everyone else. That was an article released a the beginning of April regarding March 2025 numbers. Yay for record imports, right? That was the goal?

From the article:

• The Port of Savannah achieved record-breaking growth in March, handling 534,000 TEUs, a 22.5% increase from the previous year, driven by cargo shifts from the West Coast and preemptive ordering to avoid tariffs.

Savannah does about 4 million TEU's / cargo volume annually while LA/ Long Beach and New York account for over 25 million TEU's annually. Keep an eye on April and May reports...

[QuarterMillionMan]

Wishful thinking if the gasoline tax will be replaced with the road tax. If true gas prices should drop significantly.

[myrdale]

The proposal is to eliminate the gas tax and replace it with the Road Charge program for all vehicles, ICE and EV. The average ICE owner spends about $300/year in CA fuel taxes, so the Road Charge per miles driven would roughly replace this, and it's equitable based on propulsion choice and annual miles driven.

It's not a bad proposal at face value.

What if I drive on private property?

[kork13]

What if I drive on private property?

Or out of state? Or buy somebody else's car between this tax collection?

[ua_guy]

What if I drive on private property?

You suck it up, just like if you buy taxed fuel to put in your car that you only drive on private property. Else you don't register your car because you only drive it on private property, and only buy farm fuel (no tax) for it. If you drive on public roads, you pay full price.

For everything else, my guess is self-certification regarding mileage and time spent in/out of state on an annual basis when renewing the vehicle's registration. Mileage is already tracked via state DMV's when purchasing and selling for the first 10 or 20 years depending on the state and I'm sure California would have no problem extending that. I kind of think it should be anyway...remember vehicles with only 5-digit odometers? Does that car have 49,000 miles, or is it a very well cared-for 149k?