$100 covid incentive

[ua_guy]

Don’t cry when you see the big picture of yourself standing in line with 1000 other people for a loaf of bread.

Not going to happen, period, end of story.

[james.hendrickson]

Not going to happen, period, end of story.

ua_guy. Lets be realistic. Americans are subject to the same errors in judgement that the rest of humanity is. That's why we need prudent fiscal policy.

[ua_guy]

ua_guy. Lets be realistic. Americans are subject to the same errors in judgement that the rest of humanity is. That's why we need prudent fiscal policy.

Let's be clear. There's realistic fiscal policy and then there's the tyranny of the hypothetical doomsday, which people have been screeching about every time the government spends a nickel. This is the latter. And truly, it pales in comparison to the obligations and taxpayer money already spent on healthcare for people who have completely ignored good advice. I really don't want to hear about the paragon of personal freedom and choice when in reality, it's bankrupting this country. $100 for everyone who takes the vaccine starting now quite literally rounds to zero in the grand scheme.

[myrdale]

Not going to happen, period, end of story.

Not necessarily. Exponential growth never last. Sooner or later the curve for positive growth has to flatten and / or decrease. This applies to population, spending, atomic bombs, and viruses.

Sooner or later the bill does come due.

[james.hendrickson]

Let's be clear. There's realistic fiscal policy and then there's the tyranny of the hypothetical doomsday, which people have been screeching about every time the government spends a nickel. This is the latter. And truly, it pales in comparison to the obligations and taxpayer money already spent on healthcare for people who have completely ignored good advice. I really don't want to hear about the paragon of personal freedom and choice when in reality, it's bankrupting this country. $100 for everyone who takes the vaccine starting now quite literally rounds to zero in the grand scheme.

That's fair. Its also possible that the reason we're seeing so much inflation now is the huge amount of stimulus spending under Trump and Biden. More money chasing less economic activity usually means money is worth less.

[QuarterMillionMan]

FDA Covid-19 Vaccine Booster Plan Could Be Ready Within Weeks - WSJ

WSJ video on booster shots.

[ua_guy]

That's fair. Its also possible that the reason we're seeing so much inflation now is the huge amount of stimulus spending under Trump and Biden. More money chasing less economic activity usually means money is worth less.

I give it 6-8 months. Supply constraints, covid savings, and also a huge shift in spending have shifted the norm. This isn't a situation any of us have seen in our lifetimes, so rather than predict doomsday, let's follow it where it's going. Things are coming back online, people are going back to work. It takes a while for 'everything' to catch up.

[QuarterMillionMan]

Booster shot recommendation could be at 6 months instead of 8 (wtnh.com)

Also, Moderna may produce 2x's the antibodies vs Prizer.

[QuarterMillionMan]

CDC has not yet approved boosters for the general public 18+ (without underlying medical conditions) but California's top Dr Mark Ghaly said today on the news in Los Angeles it is okay for the general public 18+ (without underlying medical conditions) to go ahead and get the boosters if it has been more than 6 months or 2 months with J & J. I didn't know California's top Dr could override the CDC. Even though I got my 2 dose Pfizer in March, I won't go running out to get my booster, I rather wait until CDC says go.

[ua_guy]

CDC has not yet approved boosters for the general public 18+ (without underlying medical conditions) but California's top Dr Mark Ghaly said today on the news in Los Angeles it is okay for the general public 18+ (without underlying medical conditions) to go ahead and get the boosters if it has been more than 6 months or 2 months with J & J. I didn't know California's top Dr could override the CDC. Even though I got my 2 dose Pfizer in March, I won't go running out to get my booster, I rather wait until CDC says go.

The CDC doesn't supersede state and local regulations. It's an advisory agency and has little power to execute.

The data support most people taking a booster. CDC's eligibility is already very wide - qualifying conditions and situations cover a lot of people, not just age. California's recommendation is slightly wider since there's evidence of waning immunity for all groups, and that it's generally not unsafe for a healthy person to take a booster.

I appreciate the element of personal choice (Both CDC and CA consider you "fully vaccinated" still without the booster) and for the State of CA doing what it felt was more beneficial for its people.

[QuarterMillionMan]

I read somewhere that males can develop myocarditis or pericarditis, inflammation of the heart muscles & lining, though rare, I'm not in a rush to get the booster. If I had an upcoming trip especially international then I would get the booster.

[QuarterMillionMan]

I’m curious about everyone’s take on mixing & matching? When CDC approves boosters for all I might go with Moderna even though I got Pfizer’s 2-dose due to some articles I read that Moderna is better.

[kork13]

CDC has already signed off on mix-match between all available vaccines, including Pfizer, Modena, J&J, and even Astra-Zenica (I wasn't aware that FDA & CDC had approved the A-Z vaccine, but I know that's what alot of Europe is using... So it may be to cover folks who got A-Z in Europe but then want to get one of the others here in the US.

Also read an article that NM has unilaterally approved all 18+ adults to get a booster.

[Like2Plan]

"Among U.S. adults without immunocompromising conditions, vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 hospitalization during March 11–August 15, 2021, was higher for the Moderna vaccine (93%) than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (88%) and the Janssen vaccine (71%)."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e1.htm?s_cid=mm7038e1_w

"Which COVID-19 booster should I get?
Don't overthink the decision."

https://www.popsci.com/science/which-booster-should-i-gety/

Surgeon General's guidance on which booster:
“If you’ve gotten Pfizer or Moderna and if you did well with your primary series, I think it’s quite reasonable to stick with what you’ve got originally,” Murthy said in a “Squawk Box” interview.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/22/us-surgeon-general-dr-vivek-murthy-guidance-on-mix-and-match-covid-boosters.html?__twitter_impression=true&recirc=taboolainternal

Of note, the Moderna booster is half a dose. (Which may result in fewer side effects.)

[QuarterMillionMan]

I like that Moderna's booster is 1/2 dose. And I hope California offers incentives for boosters let's say $50 and I would go.