Originally posted by wincrasher
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Friggin Cops
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He is a cop, not a rocket scientist. Anyways, you are totally missing the point- Im not mad I got a ticket, it just doesnt seem right that he can guess my speed and his judgement determines whether my ticket is $150 or $250. Like I said earlier, I wasn't being reckless. I never drive recklessly. I got caught in an area where the speed reduces quickly, I didn't know it did that and he got me. It was a speed trap and I got busted. I accept that I broke the law and there are consequences, but no matter what anyone says, I will never think that someone who went to a police academy for 6 weeks should be able to determine if I get a $150 or $250 by the radar in his eye.
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Law Enforcement is not a six weeek course, at least nowhere here.Originally posted by Debt Vigilante View PostHe is a cop, not a rocket scientist. Anyways, you are totally missing the point- Im not mad I got a ticket, it just doesnt seem right that he can guess my speed and his judgement determines whether my ticket is $150 or $250. Like I said earlier, I wasn't being reckless. I never drive recklessly. I got caught in an area where the speed reduces quickly, I didn't know it did that and he got me. It was a speed trap and I got busted. I accept that I broke the law and there are consequences, but no matter what anyone says, I will never think that someone who went to a police academy for 6 weeks should be able to determine if I get a $150 or $250 by the radar in his eye.
BTW, neither scanners, nor your speedometer, nor your opinons of your own speed as you come down that slope at that moment in time when he caught you, will change the fact that you were (by your own word) speeding.
Unless your eye was on that speedometer, you cannot say with absolute certainty, how fast you were going; probably you saw him and automatically started slowing down and looked at your speed, in that order. That would be the natural sequence of events.
Admittedly, an officer cannot judge speed with absolute certainty either, unless they've had plenty of practice in that location.
The officer had a job to do, and he found a good spot to do it in.
Fighting a ticket takes time out of what you might otherwise be doing. You could win in the courtroom, or you could lose. Your choice?
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i never said anything about fighting the ticket. Everyone assumed that. The ticket is already paid. Like I said multiple times, the only problem I have with it is that they can judge speed by eyesight. Thats my only beef. Even IF I was going 40, I still dont think they should be able to judge by vision.Originally posted by Seeker View PostLaw Enforcement is not a six weeek course, at least nowhere here.
BTW, neither scanners, nor your speedometer, nor your opinons of your own speed as you come down that slope at that moment in time when he caught you, will change the fact that you were (by your own word) speeding.
Unless your eye was on that speedometer, you cannot say with absolute certainty, how fast you were going; probably you saw him and automatically started slowing down and looked at your speed, in that order. That would be the natural sequence of events.
Admittedly, an officer cannot judge speed with absolute certainty either, unless they've had plenty of practice in that location.
The officer had a job to do, and he found a good spot to do it in.
Fighting a ticket takes time out of what you might otherwise be doing. You could win in the courtroom, or you could lose. Your choice?
I meant to say 6 months, not weeks. I got in a hurry typing. My best friend (ex roomate) went through it last year.
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I worked as a paid part time cop for two and a half years. You may get pretty good at estimating speeds, but a speeding teciket should not be able to be written based upon a visual estimation. It gives cops way too much power. Visual estimations of speed will be abused.Originally posted by Seeker View PostLaw Enforcement is not a six weeek course, at least nowhere here.
BTW, neither scanners, nor your speedometer, nor your opinons of your own speed as you come down that slope at that moment in time when he caught you, will change the fact that you were (by your own word) speeding.
Unless your eye was on that speedometer, you cannot say with absolute certainty, how fast you were going; probably you saw him and automatically started slowing down and looked at your speed, in that order. That would be the natural sequence of events.
Admittedly, an officer cannot judge speed with absolute certainty either, unless they've had plenty of practice in that location.
The officer had a job to do, and he found a good spot to do it in.
Fighting a ticket takes time out of what you might otherwise be doing. You could win in the courtroom, or you could lose. Your choice?
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Getting caught for speeding sucks, but you just gotta deal with it. Do you have a clean driving record or free from last year of moving violations? If you're concerned with more long term effects on driving record IE increased auto insurance rate, then I'd look at other options. In most counties within state of Minnesota, you can talk to a hearing officer, plead guilty, pay full price but doesn't stay on record as long as you don't get get another violation within the 12months, basically probation. Otherwise if its just the fees/principle issue, they can usually reduce the cost.
As someone said before, police officers get OT for court dates. True, they can't cover all dates, but most of them won't complain since they have further incentive to show up. So either way you have to prove you weren't going that speed, as with the officer to "prove" you were."I'd buy that for a dollar!"
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