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  • #31
    Saying having sex without BC is trying is like saying walking outside is trying to get skin cancer.......

    Sure we know we aught to prevent it if we really don't want the consequences, but the statistics say we prolly wont have a problem (now Murpheys law on the other hand....)

    I think I read somewhere the stats are something like 20% of unprotected results in a baby? I am not sure the stats on skin cancer, but I think it is less than 20%..so not entirely the same, but you get my point.

    There is a big difference between trying and just being willing to accept the possibility. (this is not meant as an insult to those who do try or those who plan, nor to those who do wear/don't wear sunscreen)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PrincessPerky View Post
      There is a big difference between trying and just being willing to accept the possibility.
      I see your point. The people that I don't understand are the ones who don't want to get pregnant and aren't willing to accept an unplanned pregnancy but aren't using protection. That's just playing Russian roulette basically. That's who tends to turn up in my office. The woman crying about being pregnant who wasn't using birth control. Well what did you think would happen?
      Steve

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      • #33
        I think I read somewhere the stats are something like 20% of unprotected results in a baby? I am not sure the stats on skin cancer, but I think it is less than 20%..so not entirely the same, but you get my point.

        No, I don't get your point.

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        • #34
          I thought without BC the statistics was 50% will get pregnant within 1 year. And if you don't go see a doctor.
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          • #35
            My husband and I found out we were pregnant after 6 months of dating. I was on the pill and using it correctly. We weren't using any other method though. I won't ever say our daughter was a mistake, but she was definitely an early surprise! She'll be 3 this September, and she's definitely the light of my life.

            On the other hand, we are currently not using any BC, but we also aren't telling people we're trying. I don't want to say those words for fear it'll like curse us, lol. But we do want to have another one and are hoping that it happens soon.

            I do agree that if you absolutely don't want to get pregnant, you need to be using something to prevent it. There is absolutely no excuse for not using BC whether it be condoms, the pill, whatever.

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            • #36
              Living large I googled some odds.

              t's difficult to say exactly how long it will take any one individual or couple to get pregnant. Factors such as your age, general and reproductive health, and when you have intercourse all impact your chances of conceiving a child.

              However, these general statistics may give you an idea of how long it will take. Normally fertile couples have a 25 percent chance of getting pregnant each cycle, and a cumulative pregnancy rate of 75 to 85 percent over the course of one year. Still, some healthy couples can take even longer to get pregnant.
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              So 25% each cycle, but yeah more over a year. So for a one time fling I wasn't far off.

              That is the odds for a woman in her 20s BTW, they go down as mom ages.

              II could not find stats on skin cancer..but skin cancer is a bit more complicated.

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              • #37
                Holy cow. Okay if there is a 75 to 85% chance of getting pregnant, why the heck would you not use BC if you don't want kids?

                I thought okay maybe it's not necessary if you only have a 20% chance a year, but it's like a guarantee if you use nothing.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by LivingAlmostLarge View Post
                  Holy cow. Okay if there is a 75 to 85% chance of getting pregnant, why the heck would you not use BC if you don't want kids?
                  And how can you claim to not be trying when you are being active without BC?
                  Steve

                  * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                  * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                  * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                  • #39
                    remember that is for women in their 20s....someone in their late 40s is actually down to about a yearly chance of 20% chart

                    and as to why not to call it trying..because we:

                    A don't care if it takes all year (or never happens)
                    B don't want questions (feeling bloated? have to grab those fat pants? Try adding everyone asking if you are pregnant yet on top of it....what a way to bring on PMS!)
                    C don't check cycles, don't count days, don't plan dates for peak production/ovulation, don't care if he wears boxers or briefs, or drinks a beer, etc
                    D. don't want to insult those who are actually dealing with all of the above.

                    Trying is work, some folk need medical help to conceive..those folk tried...my family was dropped in my lap, I am greatfull for the easy way it happened. (though please know 'easy' is relative.)

                    Now as to the stupidity of risking it when you hope you wont get pregnant..that is different. more like playing Russian roulette with 5 out of 6 chambers loaded. (removing one round every decade I suppose)

                    Oh yeah, and I still seem to have 2 years between kids..that yearly percentage doesn't take into effect the multitude of interrupted 'dates' due to older siblings
                    Last edited by PrincessPerky; 07-02-2008, 09:50 AM.

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                    • #40
                      "Trying" certainly implies intent. Folks who are just having sex without birth control aren't technically "trying" if their intent isn't to conceive, but the end result can certainly be the same.

                      Maybe we can call it unintentional trying.
                      Steve

                      * Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular.
                      * Why should I pay for my daughter's education when she already knows everything?
                      * There are no shortcuts to anywhere worth going.

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                      • #41
                        [QUOTE=myrdale;174476]A co-worker of mine was going on the other day what a burden it was for his mother growing up and raising 7 kids. I told him to his face that I had no sympathy what so ever for anyone who chose to have 7 children.

                        I think this is a poor example of what you are trying to express. That mother lived during an era where birth control was not as prevalent. Also, many have religious views on birth control that inhibit them from using it. The Catholic church was very harsh on birth control, and still is in many parishes.

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